The War Against Christmas

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December 13th, 2007 at 01:12am
Christmas aint a big deal for me , it's stupid now evrywhere i go fuckin christmas commericials they kill the spirit plus by the time it gets there ur sick out of ur ears with it, i hate goin to my g-parents cause well ppl they don;t believe in punk you know or goth/emo, i don;t believe in god cause all the guy did is make my life miserable lol who made him god anyways?
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December 13th, 2007 at 02:37am
^He always has and always will be. It's too much for our brains to comprehend.
btw your avatar is very annoying.

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I guess people are really about set all this Christmas stuff.

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December 13th, 2007 at 03:36am
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Christmas aint a big deal for me , it's stupid now evrywhere i go fuckin christmas commericials they kill the spirit plus by the time it gets there ur sick out of ur ears with it, i hate goin to my g-parents cause well ppl they don;t believe in punk you know or goth/emo, i don;t believe in god cause all the guy did is make my life miserable lol who made him god anyways?

I still don't understand why everyone's so negative about "commercialism" Grr
... or negative about your grandparents...
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December 13th, 2007 at 03:37am
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^He always has and always will be. It's too much for our brains to comprehend.
btw your avatar is very annoying.

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I guess people are really about set all this Christmas stuff.

I don't know why I keep posting these articles. Maybe because it fun. Dance

I read every single one of your articles Con
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December 13th, 2007 at 04:43am
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^He always has and always will be. It's too much for our brains to comprehend.
btw your avatar is very annoying.

Here are some more articles.

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I guess people are really about set all this Christmas stuff.

I don't know why I keep posting these articles. Maybe because it fun. Dance

I read every single one of your articles Con
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Well, thanks. Atleast someone is reading them. OMGyes Smile
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December 13th, 2007 at 11:22am
If it wasn't for the birth of christ, their would be no christmas. I can't seem to understand why you would actually WANT to take away the christain side if this holiday. I personally don't go to church on christmas eve but i still can get the fact that christmas is based on christianity. I got told by someone else that once whilst in the shops, he overheard a lady speaking to her friend, the conversation went something like this

" What is it with Jesus taking over everything? he took over Easter now he is taking over Christmas.... bloody christains"

O.o okay then
CHRISTMAS IS ABOUT JESUS.
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December 13th, 2007 at 11:36am
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Well, thanks. Atleast someone is reading them. OMGyes Smile
I'm reading the ones I find helpful and intellegent. I hate listenning to unintellegent rambles, I get a lot here in our local paper which I have to read and then set them straight. Lol. Rolling Eyes Stupid people.
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December 13th, 2007 at 11:13pm
i'm not religious, but i don't believe that people have the right to take the whole baby jesus theme sets and stuff away from that, that's what christmas is about isn't it? i grew up knowing about the birth of jesus and how christmas came from that. but when the santa stuff came in, it definatly took the jesus out of christmas. i guess in all i'm confused now lol is christmas about santa and christmas trees or baby jesus?! lol i just grew up with both and like all mixed together and i don't know lol i just know about the birth of jesus ok i'm done lol i'm all confused now peace.
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December 13th, 2007 at 11:54pm
trisha_goes_rawr:
i'm not religious, but i don't believe that people have the right to take the whole baby jesus theme sets and stuff away from that, that's what christmas is about isn't it? i grew up knowing about the birth of jesus and how christmas came from that. but when the santa stuff came in, it definatly took the jesus out of christmas. i guess in all i'm confused now lol is christmas about santa and christmas trees or baby jesus?! lol i just grew up with both and like all mixed together and i don't know lol i just know about the birth of jesus ok i'm done lol i'm all confused now peace.

Well, I doubt Jesus will care what decorations you put up if you worship Him and honor His day.
And, I agree, it's not right for people to force people to take down nativity scenes and other things that have to do with Christianity. They say it's to respect other people's beliefs, but what about our own?
It all gets blown out of proportion by people who don't have anything better to do Rolling Eyes
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December 14th, 2007 at 12:34am
I've always celebrated Christmas but I'm not Christian. I do wonder sometimes why I celebrate it though.
But I acknowledge what Christmas really means to some people and I don't want to take anything away from that.
At the same time though, everything would be a lot different if I didn't celebrate Christmas. I love the feeling during Christmas time. It makes me feel so warm and fuzzy inside and I don't think I could live without that feeling.
If it really mattered that I'm not Christian, I could just celelbrate this time of year and not necessarily call it Christmas. I don't really need to give a name and a fixed date just to be with my family and friends at this time of the year, do I?
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December 15th, 2007 at 03:06am
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If it wasn't for the birth of christ, their would be no christmas. I can't seem to understand why you would actually WANT to take away the christain side if this holiday. I personally don't go to church on christmas eve but i still can get the fact that christmas is based on christianity. I got told by someone else that once whilst in the shops, he overheard a lady speaking to her friend, the conversation went something like this

" What is it with Jesus taking over everything? he took over Easter now he is taking over Christmas.... bloody christains"

O.o okay then
CHRISTMAS IS ABOUT JESUS.


If I would have been there when that lady said that I would have said something to her. I'm not sure what. Something like this, "Oh, I'm sorry to hear that because Jesus would do anything for you. For instance, die on the cross to save you from sin."Or something like that.
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December 17th, 2007 at 03:56pm
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Wow..Hey I have a question.
Sorry if its a little of totally completely off topic
but some neighbors of mine have a five pointed star(pentacle) and its decorated with christmas lights and they have it on their front door, its huge, so anyone can see it, and they live infront of a christian church

is that allowed? like will something be said to them?? Laughing sorry im just asking
I shouldn't think so. It's their property, and they should be allowed to do whatever they want on it.

oh thanks blue eyes and santa, I just felt like asking to make sure.
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December 21st, 2007 at 02:20am
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But I don't mind people who don't celebrate it for religious reasons. I remember as a child, having no idea about religion and Jesus, and some of my favorites things were preparing for Santa, trimming the tree, hanging stockings and whatnot. It's become a part of American culture, and I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.


This is how I basically went about Christmas.
There are many ways and reasons to celebrate Christmas.
But I'd have to say I don't really celebrate it religiously. Rock
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December 22nd, 2007 at 04:47am
I don't even celebrate Christmas. I'v made it clear that people are welcome to give me stuff, but they won't be getting anything.
It's a load of fluff to me.
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December 25th, 2007 at 12:57am
First of all Christmas (or Jesus's birthday) is only December 25 because people used to celebrate it at different times. Some historians think Jesus's birthday was in mid-July. Then in the 4th century the church decided to make the 25th of december the official birthday of Jesus. They picked this day because it was already a holiday for most religous people. Jewish people had Hanukkah (which falls around Christmas, depending on the year), Pagans celebrated the Winter Solstice (or the Rebirth of the Sun), Muslims celebrate Ramahdan along with many other native traditions, which haven't been widely celebrated for hundreds of years (oddly enough some sound quite like the story of Jesus but I won't go into that).

That being said Christmas should be a time of joy and celebration, and is not as religous as many other holidays (like Easter or Good Friday). I'm am not Christian, but I always pictured Christmas as a giant birthday party for some old guy with lotsa hair. So what would you do on a birthday? In this day and age presents have become the norm. Also spending time with family and friends, and just having a good time. That is what Christmas (or a birthday) is really about. Some companies try to replace the joy of being together with commercial items like nice earrings or elmo toys or a wii. There is nothing really wrong with it, just as long as it makes you happy and adds to the celebration of the holiday for you.

Santa, intersetingly enough, is also based on pagan myths and other folklore. He was seen as a kind man who brought presents to young children who were good. Some religous parents disaprove of him because he's "commercialistic" and "an outright lie", but childhood is all about that stuff. Everyone went through a period in their life where they believed the boogyman was hiding under there bed. Santa is like the good boogyman, why not let them believe? For commercialism, well yes, he does bring gifts, but if he is giving, doesn't that make him good. And Santa doesn't have to bring the latest toy, game, or car; he can bring a nice card, or flowers or something non-commercialized.
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December 26th, 2007 at 05:19pm
I know it was originally celebrated because of the birth of Jesus, but most people don't really believe that ghosts and spirits come out on Halloween, as that used to be the case and we still celebrate it (and it's a pagan holiday, but most of us aren't pagans).
Okay, that was badly constructed, but what I'm saying is that lots of holidays don't have their original meaning but people don't seem to have a problem with it.

Also, I think people should be able to celebrate whenever they want. If they want to have a good time with family and friends then they can do it on any day they like, Christmas or not.
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December 26th, 2007 at 07:18pm
I don't think we're trying to make people celebrate this holiday ONLY for Jesus, just simply stating that Jesus is in fact the reason it's around. People seem to forget that. I'm not saying you're wrong for not believing in Jesus or celebrating for a different reason, but I do think it's wrong to take Jesus out of Christmas, simply because some people don't want it there. Religions of this world should be equal.
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December 29th, 2007 at 05:23am
I have more articles but I don't have my scanner with me, so I'll just type them out.

Restaurant knows whose birthday it is

Some friends of mine visited a restaurant recently. On their way out, they stopped to wish the restaurant’s cashier a Merry Christmas. And after an awkward silence, the cashier explained that she was prohibited by the restaurant chain from responding, for fear of offending any non-Christians who might overhear the exchange.
The people who measure such things and tell us what they mean advise us that we’ve become so diverse and so welcoming as a society that we’re almost hysterical with the fear of alienating anyone: If something doesn’t apply to all of us, it’s no good for any of us.
And that’s too bad, because nothing applies to all of us.
Kwanzaa, Hanukkah and Eid al- Adha, to be sure, are all important observations and celebrations. And these special times are now as American as apple pie, because we are who we are.
But for most of us, the focal point of this part of the year “ the reason for the season “ Dec. 25. And Dec. 25 means one thing only.
So my hat’s off to Wendy’s Chain of restaurants. At risk of alienation or the loss of business “ their lifeblood “ the signs in front of each of their locations spelled it out clearly for all of us to see: Happy Birthday, Jesus.
I love it. I think I’ll go to Wendy’s the next time I’m hungry.

Carl Schultz
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Time for Christians to take back holiday
I am so sick of hearing people boo-hooing because they see or hear something we have been doing for years.
Christmas has always been a special day for Americans, and it’s not just any holiday, it’s the birth of our Lord and creator.
Over the years, I’ve heard the church bells stop ringing because it annoys some people. I loved hearing them ring out the message that Christ was born.
And while Christmas shopping in town, I could hear people shouting to friends and neighbors, “Merry Christmas.” Not anymore. What a shame.
I think its time Christians start yelling back, “We’ve had enough.” If some people don’t think our custom at Christmas they should leave. I want Christmas the way it used to be, before members of a few minorities , who came here for a better life, started complaining about their feeling being hurt because we worship our Lord at this time of year.
This is the time for people to take back what is slowly being taken away.
God gave us a very special gift at Christmas, his son, and we can’t let anyone take that away from us. As we celebrate the birthday of his son, out Savior, let his love fill out hearts for another year.
I don’t think I’m alone in my feelings.
We Christians will stand together, come what may. Our feelings are hurt, too, but we have our Lord to help us through.
That said, “Merry Christmas!”

Peg Lamb
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When I read the title of the first one I knew what restaurant they were talking about., Last year, I saw Wendy's sign and I was really surprised, but at the same time very happy.
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December 29th, 2007 at 03:24pm
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I have more articles but I don't have my scanner with me, so I'll just type them out.

Restaurant knows whose birthday it is

Some friends of mine visited a restaurant recently. On their way out, they stopped to wish the restaurant’s cashier a Merry Christmas. And after an awkward silence, the cashier explained that she was prohibited by the restaurant chain from responding, for fear of offending any non-Christians who might overhear the exchange.
The people who measure such things and tell us what they mean advise us that we’ve become so diverse and so welcoming as a society that we’re almost hysterical with the fear of alienating anyone: If something doesn’t apply to all of us, it’s no good for any of us.
And that’s too bad, because nothing applies to all of us.
Kwanzaa, Hanukkah and Eid al- Adha, to be sure, are all important observations and celebrations. And these special times are now as American as apple pie, because we are who we are.
But for most of us, the focal point of this part of the year “ the reason for the season “ Dec. 25. And Dec. 25 means one thing only.
So my hat’s off to Wendy’s Chain of restaurants. At risk of alienation or the loss of business “ their lifeblood “ the signs in front of each of their locations spelled it out clearly for all of us to see: Happy Birthday, Jesus.
I love it. I think I’ll go to Wendy’s the next time I’m hungry.


In my opinion, that's ridiculous. I mean, it's one thing to ignorantly wish a non Christian a Merry Christmas but if two Christians are wishing each other a Merry Christmas, then I think passersby should just deal. The exchange had nothing to do with them, and it was perfectly harmless (Its not as if these two people were making racist comments)

I think that we can't live in a society that politely includes everyone all the time. December is Christmas time for Christians, I dont think we should have to surpress that...

My school is about 1/3 jewish and no one here gets all offended when they wish each other a happy hanukka (sp?)
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December 31st, 2007 at 01:57am
Well the media markets Christmas so much, everyone makes such a big deal out of it, non christians are gonna fell left out Dno

It's also a family thing, in our family some people are religous and some are not, but it's became a tradition for us to all do christmasy stuff together, and it would be odd for someone to say "I don't belive in the bible story so i can't celabrate christmas anymore so i'm just gonna not come to the party and ignore you guys and not be part of the family" Faith


I can see both sides, I'm not sure. Though it would be ironic for me to take the side that thinks non christian people can't celabrate cuz I'm not really religous but I still celabrate it
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