Slash Fiction

hmm... technically fanfic is illegal because you ARE using the characters... but it CAN be interpreted legal because you are creatively using the characters under fair use in the Copyright Act.

it all depends on how you look at it. I personally don't have a problem but I can see why people would. when you become famous, you should expect people to think many ways of you.

Well, if unauthorised biographies and memoirs aren't illegal, then I don't see how people wanting to sue fanfiction writers would have a leg to stand on tbh. Fanfiction is, after all, nonprofit. So it is okay to write damaging and salacious things about people in memoirs and biographies, provided that they are true? It's just when you write fiction about people then it's wrong? I can't see it.

Bloodraine:

So it is okay to write damaging and salacious things about people in memoirs and biographie

Libel is illegal.

Kurtni:

Bloodraine:

So it is okay to write damaging and salacious things about people in memoirs and biographie

Libel is illegal.

Yes, but she said provided it's true. Salacious and damaging doesn't necessarily mean false.

Dear god, I temporarily forgot about the topic at hand. At which point I must agree, fanfics can be considered libel. Especially if there are unfounded claims of homosexuality involved.

Now I'm going to bed so that when I come back to try and be clever again, it might actually work.

As far as I knew, Libel is only if the facts are presented as true, even if the author knows them to be false. As any fanfic or slashfic written is usually posted on a fiction site, with a disclaimer, I think that would discount libel, as the author is not attempting to present their story as true.

I'm never again going to post here while on 3hrs sleep. I end up writing the stupidest things -_-

Anywho. I'm on the fence about disclaimers and libel and the whole using-public-figures-as-a-subject-in-a-fanfic thing. Firstly, libel in the press would be attributing defamatory things to the actual person, whereas in fanfics, the presence of a disclaimer should clearly state anything defamatory or otherwise expressed in the fanfic concerned is merely using the image/idea of certain public figures. Because of course the author is in no way affiliated with that person.

On the other hand, I don't really like disclaimers that much either. As courteous (or self-preserving) as they seem, they're still not some kind of agreement between the author and the public figure conerned that they can be written about. You could of course argue that once a person puts himself into the spotlight he gives up at least a certain amount of privacy. But I still think in the case of fanfics it's disrespectful. Just by throwing on a disclaimer and ridding yourself of the responsibility and affiliation doesn't, or should I say shouldn't, automatically give you the right use someone's image.

I don't know. I'm not anti-fanfics or anything. In fact, I love them. I'm a little self-contradicting on this topic

I think its fucking brilliant tbqh. Harmless.. clean fun.

Ol' Blue Eyes.:

As far as I knew, Libel is only if the facts are presented as true, even if the author knows them to be false. As any fanfic or slashfic written is usually posted on a fiction site, with a disclaimer, I think that would discount libel, as the author is not attempting to present their story as true.

I highly doubt the little disclaimers composed by 13 year old MCR addicts cover all the legal bases needed.

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Slow Riot.:

And as for the non-sex fanfics... I'd just find it weird if a bunch of kids were writing random stories about my personal life.

But it's not really about their lives. It's inspired by them, but it's not about them. It's not real. Ideas have to come from somewhere, right? If an idea for a story comes from an aspect of your favourite band members life, is it really that bad to use them as a character to put that idea onto paper?

I don't see why it's necessary to use them as characters. I don't know, I'd just find it really creepy if other people were writing about... say... a day at the zoo with me, my wife, and my children. It's one thing to do it just for sexual gratification, because at least there's a decent reason for that. But when it's just intruding in on one's personal life like that, I just personally find it weird.

When it's written well and isn't a collection of smut it can be good.

Nevertheless though, I feel sorry for artists when it's brought up in interviews. That's just wrong.

omg to be honest i would have so much fun reading fanfics about myself if i was famous.

and i really think some of you are taking it too seriously
it's not meant in a harmful or demeaning way and, as its name suggests, it is entirely a work of FICTION and (usually) there's a disclaimer to prove it. i don't anybody who thinks stuff that happens in fanfics happened in real life.

in addition, what about the stuff that's based off of like, TV shows? then it's not based upon real people or their personal lives in the least. authors like JK Rowling have said fanfiction is great and have encouraged readers to keep writing

victoria california:

authors like JK Rowling have said fanfiction is great and have encouraged readers to keep writing

Yeah, so she could copy/paste them for her seventh book.
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victoria california:

in addition, what about the stuff that's based off of like, TV shows? then it's not based upon real people or their personal lives in the least. authors like JK Rowling have said fanfiction is great and have encouraged readers to keep writing

And Anne Rice has asked for all fanfiction to be taken down. Having a disclaimer doesn't then mean the creator of these characters/the actual people who are used as characters automatically has to feel comfortable about it.

"I do not allow fan fiction.

The characters are copyrighted. It upsets me terribly to even think about fan fiction with my characters. I advise my readers to write your own original stories with your own characters.

It is absolutely essential that you respect my wishes."

I do actually think she was a little pushy about this whole thing

I remember Harry being asked what he thought about slash in an interview once, and at first he was like "...us together like...that?...okaaaaaay..." but then he said something like "well I guess we watch lesbian porn so it's logical that girls would like guys in the same way". And it's not fanfiction but they've seen some of the manips people have made where their heads are on the bodies of random models or their bodies are photoshopped together, and they're pretty cool with it. They think it's funny rather than offensive.

I have a question and I hope I don't sound bitchy or daft asking it

If fanfic was illegal, why do they have sites dedicated solely to them?

Mistress Dita:

I have a question and I hope I don't sound bitchy or daft asking it

If fanfic was illegal, why do they have sites dedicated solely to them?

I don't think Fan Fiction is illegal.
You are using the basis of a person, but you're not saying that you claim them as yours and whatnot.

And tbh, just because something's illegal, there are a bunch of idiots on the internet who'll do it anyway.

Mistress Dita:

I have a question and I hope I don't sound bitchy or daft asking it

If fanfic was illegal, why do they have sites dedicated solely to them?

Well, you don't see bands out their filing civil cases, do you?

Kurtni:

Mistress Dita:

I have a question and I hope I don't sound bitchy or daft asking it

If fanfic was illegal, why do they have sites dedicated solely to them?

Well, you don't see bands out their filing civil cases, do you?

That would make for a lot of cases

projekt:

And tbh, just because something's illegal, there are a bunch of idiots on the internet who'll do it anyway.

yeah thats true

Pretty Like Drugs:

And Anne Rice has asked for all fanfiction to be taken down. Having a disclaimer doesn't then mean the creator of these characters/the actual people who are used as characters automatically has to feel comfortable about it.

"I do not allow fan fiction.

The characters are copyrighted. It upsets me terribly to even think about fan fiction with my characters. I advise my readers to write your own original stories with your own characters.

It is absolutely essential that you respect my wishes."

I do actually think she was a little pushy about this whole thing

okay if they have said that they really dislike it then obviously it's not okay

idk maybe books or something, in that page with all the publishing detail stuff, should have "no fanfiction can be written about this" or something