Poverty in the U.S. -vs- Poverty in other countries
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| Anji Basket Case  Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914  | Elegant Rubble:That is impossible unless you condem the entire world to a state of anarcho-primitivism. There will always be cities and countries worse off than other ones. If not Glasgow and Scotland, then some other city and country. Elegant Rubble:That is the same for pretty much everywhere else. The food companies in general put product good on shelves giving them fancy namies of 'organic' character and sell them for very high prices. And then there's McDonald's who have cheap, unhealthy food. Elegant Rubble:I know, and so does WHO. Industrial nations with the highest overall cancer rates include: U.S.A, Italy, Australia, Germany, The Netherlands, Canada and France. Developing countries with the lowest cancer were in Northern Africa Southern and Eastern Asia. (A complete list of cancer rates by countries can be found at http://www-dep.iarc.fr/.) Scotland, not on that list. However, Scotland has the highest cancer rates in the UK, so you get that spot, at least. Elegant Rubble:I live in third world countries. I have done so for over half my life, no, over three quarters of my life in fact, and I've experienced baaaaad shit. I've also lived in America and Canada and I frequently go to Britain, Scotland especially. Nothing compares with what goes on in developing countries, the violence, the crime, the civil unrest and the poverty. I assure you that for every bad thing that goes on in Glasgow, something ten times as bad occurs in ten times as many countries that are ten times less fortunate than Scotland. |
| Bones Falling In Love With The Board  Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 5734  | i dont disagree with that - im not saying that scotland is worse off than these countries what I am saying though is that we are far worse off than what we should be. The UK is not a poor country so why should some people within it be condemed to poverty??? Im also not saying that stuff doesnt need to be done to help these third world countries but help should also be given to those people in Glasgow. I do feel bad and guily and all the rest of it about people in these countries but as a human being i also cant help being selfish and only think of myself when I get caught up with everything that is happening in Scotland - its hard to think of others throgh your own misery and suffering what im saying there would be a lot more help available to third world countries if the problems at home were sorted as then there would be more people better off able to help those that are less fortunate - there is absolutely no reason why anyone in the developed world should have to live the way a lot of people in Glasgow do, even if there are others worse off. And as for the cancer thing I can only go by the information given and thats what was in the news so.... |
| Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914 | Elegant Rubble:Wealth distribution problem. And money drainage from the Victorian era with the collapse of the Empire. The entire world is like this. |
| Bones Falling In Love With The Board Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 5734 | doesnt make it right - we have a responsibility and the government has a responsibility to resolve these problems. The entire world may have a lot of problems but glasgow seems to be hit one of the worse - something has to be done about it. Quoteit doesnt matter how it ended up this way, it matters that nothing seems to be being done to combat this. This is where i think poverty within a country overrides our resposibility to help other countries get out of poverty - practice what you preach |
| Ol' Blue Eyes. King For A Couple Of Days  Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 4816 | Elegant Rubble:In Africa, something like half the population picks their food out of garbage heaps. I don't think that is the case anywhere else. |
| Matt Smith Admin  Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 31134 | One could say that once the bigger countries in the world have sorted out their own problems, they will be better placed to help poorer countries. And like the Oxfam adverts say, you've got to 'help people so that they can help themselves.' |
| Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914 | Elegant Rubble:Glasgow isn't one of the worst as we discussed earlier and as you previously, freely admitted. Anyway, if we're going to tackle the worst developed country, why not the world country in the world? They are in a more dire need than anyone else in the world and are desperate for any help they can get. It's very selfish to just think about your own country, and to be honest, there will always be poor people, someone will always have less money than someone else. In countries in Africa, this problem is huge, it deserves more attention than local problems because otherwise, who's going to bother dealing with it if everyone else doesn't care as well? |
| Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914 | Elegant Rubble:You don't think that there could be something to be learned at all? You don't think that knowing what situation you're in could help prevent it or perhaps even fix it? |
| Bones Falling In Love With The Board Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 5734 | scotland is one of the worse off - not in the world but in the developed "rich" world. And i dont think you can help others when you yourself need help. We need to fix our internal problems before we can even begin to help others |
| Bones Falling In Love With The Board Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 5734 | Anji: not really because the reasons that caused it happened too long ago - theres no danger of us becoming an empire again and most of the problems we were faced with then no longer exsist - we have entirely new problems to combat |
| Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914 | There will forever be internal affairs that need attending to. There is no such thin as a 'perfect country'. Some countries come close, but almost all are no where near, and it almost impossible to completely fix. The least you can do is observe that this is worse in other countries than your own, and admit that they need the help more. |
| Bones Falling In Love With The Board Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 5734 | theres still no reason not to help people within scotland just because there are others worse off I realise that its never going to perfect but you have to at least try |
| Matt Smith Admin Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 31134 | Elegant Rubble: Assuming you are talking about the British Empire ... whatever happened to wanting to be Scottish and Scottish only? |
| Bones Falling In Love With The Board Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 5734 | i dont like to be thought of as british but as much as I hate it scotland was dragged into the empire - by we i mean scotland, not having to become part of an empire again |
| Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914 | If you don't think that they're getting enough help then why don't you do something about it. I never said a thing about not doing nothing, there are already many schemes in the Glasgow area to improve living standards. And it certainly has helped since from when I last visited. |
| Bones Falling In Love With The Board Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 5734 | who says im not? and i bet when you visit glasgow you dont visit somewhere like posselpark, I dont recomend it by the way |
| Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914 | Elegant Rubble:Actually, I stayed at Possilpark with my mate, near Saracen. It wasn't all that bad, really. |
| Mycophobia Basket Case  Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 15581 | no offence to british but, I don't get why they think they have to govern scotland/northern ireland/ wales. whats so great about them being part of the UK? |
| Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914 | BayareatasticPolexia:Try to be more politically correct, please. We are all British, it's the English that have the main control. Becareful or you may end up in a tussle if you let your toungue slip. |
| Mycophobia Basket Case Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 15581 | Anji:OMG AHHH WRONG THREAD  sorry  |
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