If abortion was illegal we'd have a scenario like back in the thirties when backstreet alleyways were turning out hundreds of botched foetusus with bits of uterus still attachhed to them.
If you don't mind the gruesome imagery. Plus, no options for rape victims or people with ilnesses.
It should be available in extreme mediacal cases when no other option exists, pot is illegal, but is used for medical purposes. Rape victims can put babies up for adoption, no one said they had to raise the child. Abortion is still legal, but people have at home abortions now, so making it illegal isnt going to change that.
but I have never been raped, so I have no right to say what they can and can't feel. I think it would be ok for rape cases, but thats only for rape. Immature teenagers shouldnt have that option.
500,000 women in Africa die every year because they can't handle giving birth to a baby.
Abortion would save them.
Where did you get that statistic from?
We had a document about that in school.
Abortion shouldn't be illegal. Never. Even if it is made illegal, women are still gonna have them in unsafe manners.So why not keep it safe now? Just as any medical procedure, it should be available for everyone. Society isn't forcing you to have an abortion. People who want one should be able to get one, and others who don't want one don't get one. That's all. I don't think abortion is murder but that's a question of opinion and people are entitled on their opinion, however if abortion is made illegal for opinions and religious beliefs, that's unfair, because you're forcing your views on others.
500,000 women in Africa die every year because they can't handle giving birth to a baby.
Abortion would save them.
Where did you get that statistic from?
We had a document about that in school.
Abortion shouldn't be illegal. Never. Even if it is made illegal, women are still gonna have them in unsafe manners.So why not keep it safe now? Just as any medical procedure, it should be available for everyone. Society isn't forcing you to have an abortion. People who want one should be able to get one, and others who don't want one don't get one. That's all. I don't think abortion is murder but that's a question of opinion and people are entitled on their opinion, however if abortion is made illegal for opinions and religious beliefs, that's unfair, because you're forcing your views on others.
Religious beliefs gave nothing to do with abortion in my case.
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however if abortion is made illegal for opinions
That is one of the most hypocritical statements I have read. Opinions shouldnt matter? SO then why does your opinion matter to keep it legal?Of course peoples opinions matter, how else would laws be made.
As for the "keep it safe" thing, shooting people is illegal? Should we make that safe? Give the gunmen regular weapon checks to make sure they are clean and in working order? Stealing is illegal, should we make that safe? Take away peoples self defense aids and things like that? No.
Abortion is murder, plain and simple. Last time I checked, murder wasnt legal
and can you be more specific, there is a million documents on abortion, if you can't site a vaild source, don't use it in your arguement.
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500,000 women in Africa die every year because they can't handle giving birth to a baby.
Abortion would save them.
Where did you get that statistic from?
We had a document about that in school.
Abortion shouldn't be illegal. Never. Even if it is made illegal, women are still gonna have them in unsafe manners.So why not keep it safe now? Just as any medical procedure, it should be available for everyone. Society isn't forcing you to have an abortion. People who want one should be able to get one, and others who don't want one don't get one. That's all. I don't think abortion is murder but that's a question of opinion and people are entitled on their opinion, however if abortion is made illegal for opinions and religious beliefs, that's unfair, because you're forcing your views on others.
Religious beliefs gave nothing to do with abortion in my case.
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however if abortion is made illegal for opinions
That is one of the most hypocritical statements I have read. Opinions shouldnt matter? SO then why does your opinion matter to keep it legal?Of course peoples opinions matter, how else would laws be made.
As for the "keep it safe" thing, shooting people is illegal? Should we make that safe? Give the gunmen regular weapon checks to make sure they are clean and in working order? Stealing is illegal, should we make that safe? Take away peoples self defense aids and things like that? No.
Abortion is murder, plain and simple. Last time I checked, murder wasnt legal
and can you be more specific, there is a million documents on abortion, if you can't site a vaild source, don't use it in your arguement.
what about the women who abort children just has a form of contraception? Is that then right? Should they be able to have 10/15 abortions because they WANT them? Shouldnt these mothers be told that if they continue they should keep they're legs closed? I have had 3 kiddies full term and i have had 7 pregnancys none of which i would consider having abortions i lost 4 of them naturaly, and if it left me with 7 kids them so be it
You can tell them to keep their legs closed all you want, it isnt going to help. They shouldnt be sterilized though, that's an invasion of privacy and what if they do want kids later on? Abortion should be illegal because it is murder, but I don't think those who get abortions now that it is legal should be sterilized.
Making it illegal wont stop anyone from getting an abortion. Its illegal in Ireland, so what do people do? I'll tell you what; they go to Britian and get it done. So what then? You want every country in the world to make it illegal? Cause that is never going to happen. And you know why? Because not everyone thinks it is murder and not everyone is willing to go through child birth and raise a kid they don't want because of a stupid mistake.
Making it illegal wont stop anyone from getting an abortion. Its illegal in Ireland, so what do people do? I'll tell you what; they go to Britian and get it done. So what then? You want every country in the world to make it illegal? Cause that is never going to happen. And you know why? Because not everyone thinks it is murder and not everyone is willing to go through child birth and raise a kid they don't want because of a stupid mistake.
So someones life is a stupid mistake? My mom didnt intend to have me, but I sure as hell hope Im more than a stupid mistake. No one said they had to raise the kid either, adoption.
Making it illegal wont stop anyone from getting an abortion. Its illegal in Ireland, so what do people do? I'll tell you what; they go to Britian and get it done. So what then? You want every country in the world to make it illegal? Cause that is never going to happen. And you know why? Because not everyone thinks it is murder and not everyone is willing to go through child birth and raise a kid they don't want because of a stupid mistake.
So someones life is a stupid mistake? My mom didnt intend to have me, but I sure as hell hope Im more than a stupid mistake. No one said they had to raise the kid either, adoption.
My mother didn't want me either, still doesn't, a lot of the time I wish she had just gotten the obortion she keeps telling reminding me she wanted to get.
And yeah there's a adoption but carrying a baby around for nine months and giving birth to it is a big deal, easpecially if you're only a kid yourself.
Making it illegal wont stop anyone from getting an abortion. Its illegal in Ireland, so what do people do? I'll tell you what; they go to Britian and get it done. So what then? You want every country in the world to make it illegal? Cause that is never going to happen. And you know why? Because not everyone thinks it is murder and not everyone is willing to go through child birth and raise a kid they don't want because of a stupid mistake.
So someones life is a stupid mistake? My mom didnt intend to have me, but I sure as hell hope Im more than a stupid mistake. No one said they had to raise the kid either, adoption.
My mother didn't want me either, still doesn't, a lot of the time I wish she had just gotten the obortion she keeps telling reminding me she wanted to get.
And yeah there's a adoption but carrying a baby around for nine months and giving birth to it is a big deal, easpecially if you're only a kid yourself.
Ok, well maybe you shouldnt be having Sex if you can't handle possibly having a child. It is a big burden, you're right, murdering the baby is so much simpler, but that doesnt make it right. There is consequences for actions.
Ok, well maybe you shouldnt be having Sex if you can't handle possibly having a child. It is a big burden, you're right, murdering the baby is so much simpler, but that doesnt make it right. There is consequences for actions.
Now we're just going round in circles!
And sex was the stupid mistake I was refering to, so what I was saying was they made a mistake of having sex without protection and don't want a baby so they should have the choice of abort it
But what you're saying is they shouldn't have sex in the first place, can you just think about what you're saying of a moment, don't you think giving the choice they would turn back the clock and not have sex?
But that's not possible. And anyway most women who get pregant by accident are drunk when they conceive, they don't know what they're doing, its not as if they had coniously decided not to have unprotected sex.
And I really don't see obortion as murder.
Ok, well maybe you shouldnt be having Sex if you can't handle possibly having a child. It is a big burden, you're right, murdering the baby is so much simpler, but that doesnt make it right. There is consequences for actions.
Now we're just going round in circles!
And sex was the stupid mistake I was refering to, so what I was saying was they made a mistake of having sex without protection and don't want a baby so they should have the choice of abort it
But what you're saying is they shouldn't have sex in the first place, can you just think about what you're saying of a moment, don't you think giving the choice they would turn back the clock and not have sex?
But that's not possible. And anyway most women who get pregant by accident are drunk when they conceive, they don't know what they're doing, its not as if they had coniously decided not to have unprotected sex.
And I really don't see obortion as murder.
Ok, well, first off, that bold part isnt true. Most of them are teenagers who were in pressured relationships, which doesnt matter. Ok, and you can't turn time back, there are tons of mistakes a wish I hadnt made,but oh well. I faced the consequences and dealt with them. And the ones that were drunk, they decided to get wasted, that was their choice, and if you want to get smashed, you have to deal with the consequences.
Ok, well, first off, that bold part isnt true. Most of them are teenagers who were in pressured relationships, which doesnt matter. Ok, and you can't turn time back, there are tons of mistakes a wish I hadnt made,but oh well. I faced the consequences and dealt with them. And the ones that were drunk, they decided to get wasted, that was their choice, and if you want to get smashed, you have to deal with the consequences.
Well maybe the reasons for pregnancies are different where you are.
And there's a bit of difference with between getting a bad test result and having to do detention and giving birth to a child, and haven't you ever considered that oborting the baby is a way of dealing with the consequences? (At risk of sounding cold hearted) It's a lot more efficent than the other way.
Ok, well, first off, that bold part isnt true. Most of them are teenagers who were in pressured relationships, which doesnt matter. Ok, and you can't turn time back, there are tons of mistakes a wish I hadnt made,but oh well. I faced the consequences and dealt with them. And the ones that were drunk, they decided to get wasted, that was their choice, and if you want to get smashed, you have to deal with the consequences.
Well maybe the reasons for pregnancies are different where you are.
And there's a bit of difference with between getting a bad test result and having to do detention and giving birth to a child, and haven't you ever considered that oborting the baby is a way of dealing with the consequences? (At risk of sounding cold hearted) It's a lot more efficent than the other way.
Umm no, aborting the baby isnt a consequence, it's aoviding the responability for your actions. Yeah, the causes are still the same 'where i am', people are having sex who shouldnt, it's simple as that, and abortion is the easy way out, and it's murder.
Ok, well, first off, that bold part isnt true. Most of them are teenagers who were in pressured relationships, which doesnt matter. Ok, and you can't turn time back, there are tons of mistakes a wish I hadnt made,but oh well. I faced the consequences and dealt with them. And the ones that were drunk, they decided to get wasted, that was their choice, and if you want to get smashed, you have to deal with the consequences.
Well maybe the reasons for pregnancies are different where you are.
And there's a bit of difference with between getting a bad test result and having to do detention and giving birth to a child, and haven't you ever considered that oborting the baby is a way of dealing with the consequences? (At risk of sounding cold hearted) It's a lot more efficent than the other way.
Umm no, aborting the baby isnt a consequence, it's aoviding the responability for your actions. Yeah, the causes are still the same 'where i am', people are having sex who shouldnt, it's simple as that, and abortion is the easy way out, and it's murder.
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I agree with you. Abortion is just an easy way out...
I mean you have sex you have to be responsible for the results.
Abortion is not a way of dealing with the consequenses...its being irresponsible for your actions. Why take it out on the baby?
Ok, well, first off, that bold part isnt true. Most of them are teenagers who were in pressured relationships, which doesnt matter. Ok, and you can't turn time back, there are tons of mistakes a wish I hadnt made,but oh well. I faced the consequences and dealt with them. And the ones that were drunk, they decided to get wasted, that was their choice, and if you want to get smashed, you have to deal with the consequences.
Well maybe the reasons for pregnancies are different where you are.
And there's a bit of difference with between getting a bad test result and having to do detention and giving birth to a child, and haven't you ever considered that oborting the baby is a way of dealing with the consequences? (At risk of sounding cold hearted) It's a lot more efficent than the other way.
Umm no, aborting the baby isnt a consequence, it's aoviding the responability for your actions. Yeah, the causes are still the same 'where i am', people are having sex who shouldnt, it's simple as that, and abortion is the easy way out, and it's murder.
*buts in*
I agree with you. Abortion is just an easy way out...
I mean you have sex you have to be responsible for the results.
Abortion is not a way of dealing with the consequenses...its being irresponsible for your actions. Why take it out on the baby?
I believe that abortions should ONLY be used when the pregancy is a threat to the mother's health (like if she's 11 and will most likely have long term health effects if she has the child), the mother was raped (and feels that she wouldn't be able to take care of the product of that rape for what ever reason), or if the child is SERIOUSLY deformed (like if it was formed without a skull or something like that). many women do use them as birth control, and I don't believe that's right. there are sooo many forms of birthcontrol out there and a sexually active woman needs to use one or more form of it.
I believe that abortions should ONLY be used when the pregancy is a threat to the mother's health (like if she's 11 and will most likely have long term health effects if she has the child), the mother was raped (and feels that she wouldn't be able to take care of the product of that rape for what ever reason), or if the child is SERIOUSLY deformed (like if it was formed without a skull or something like that). many women do use them as birth control, and I don't believe that's right. there are sooo many forms of birthcontrol out there and a sexually active woman needs to use one or more form of it.
The reasons you named are the only cases in which I think abortion should be used
I believe that abortions should ONLY be used when the pregancy is a threat to the mother's health (like if she's 11 and will most likely have long term health effects if she has the child), the mother was raped (and feels that she wouldn't be able to take care of the product of that rape for what ever reason), or if the child is SERIOUSLY deformed (like if it was formed without a skull or something like that). many women do use them as birth control, and I don't believe that's right. there are sooo many forms of birthcontrol out there and a sexually active woman needs to use one or more form of it.
The reasons you named are the only cases in which I think abortion should be used
Just because the child is deformed means it has no right to live? No. Plus, they wouldn't know about that until after 4 months, and then by law it really is considered murder. If it was born without a skull, chances are it would die, but if it didn't there is medical porcedures that could give it an artificial skull.
