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Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914	April 18th, 2007 at 09:52am druscilla; in rags: If you're against abortion, don't get one. It's that simple. I'm pro-choice but I don't tell people to get abortions. It's none of my fucking business. But pro-lifers make it their business to tell women they don't have the right to choice. It's not that simple. I think that there are ethics to be discussed and decided on.
Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914	April 18th, 2007 at 10:02am rehabreject: Anji: I'd rather have lived with pain than not lived at all. But, I'd like to think that giving anyone a chance at life is a great thing. And who cares about mental defects. Should all the down syndrome people have been aborted at birth? These people can still live and have a wonderful fufilling life. They have the special Olympics, they can go to school, make friends. Maybe it's just me, but I love life. I'd choose to live. Of course I don't think that all down syndrome people should have been aborted. I mean very severe disabilities - ones which would significantly lower the quality of life of an individual. I presume you're not severely handicapped in any way, me neither - so it's difficult to judge from the sidelines. But people who ask for euthanasia don't seem to think that a life of pain is better than no life at all. You comment about rape being a valid excuse for abortion just made me think that killing a perfectly healthy child would be more cruel than sparing another from a life of suffering. So many healthy people throw their lives away with drugs, boozing, and all kinds of stuff. I think it's unfair that they can live like that, but a person who is dying, or cannot enjoy life to the fullest like a normal person has to just accept death. Lukemia patients fight for their lives. They loves their lives. Some choose to stop their own treatment. They don't love their lives any less, but they have accepted death. Yeah, there are choices that people can make, but there are also chances that should be made too. Mentally retarded people can have the chance to do so much that other perfectly fine people take for granted. At least they'll reckonise that they've gotten the chance to live. Do you know what is the probability of you being alive? It's basically one to infinity. If any minor incident happenned on the path of your existance, you wouldn't be here. There are pleanty of people who don't realise that, and I think it's unfair for those who don't even get to live.
Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914	April 18th, 2007 at 10:19am Bloodraine: I disagree with abortion, so I am anti-abortion. However, I still think you should have a choice before you decide to condemn your baby-to-be to death, so I guess I could call myself 'pro-choice'. o_o I agree with Meg.
Brendon Urie.. King For A Couple Of Days Age: 38 Gender: Female Posts: 2394	April 18th, 2007 at 06:26pm The 5-4 decision written by Justice Anthony Kennedy said the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act that Congress passed and President Bush signed into law in 2003 does not violate a woman's constitutional right to an abortion. The law is constitutional despite not containing an exception that would allow the procedure if needed to preserve a woman's health. That's wrong. I disagree with Partial-Birth Abortions except in the case of the mother's health. Said Eve Gartner of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America: "This ruling flies in the face of 30 years of Supreme Court precedent and the best interest of women's health and safety. ... This ruling tells women that politicians, not doctors, will make their health care decisions for them."
Ol' Blue Eyes. King For A Couple Of Days Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 4816	April 19th, 2007 at 01:03pm Anji: druscilla; in rags: If you're against abortion, don't get one. It's that simple. I'm pro-choice but I don't tell people to get abortions. It's none of my fucking business. But pro-lifers make it their business to tell women they don't have the right to choice. It's not that simple. I think that there are ethics to be discussed and decided on. But ethics differ from person to person. Basically, what it comes down to, is the fact that it is a woman's decision to have an abortion. And I think that if she can live with the choice she made, then she should be allowed to make it.
Brendon Urie.. King For A Couple Of Days Age: 38 Gender: Female Posts: 2394	April 19th, 2007 at 01:06pm Anji: druscilla; in rags: If you're against abortion, don't get one. It's that simple. I'm pro-choice but I don't tell people to get abortions. It's none of my fucking business. But pro-lifers make it their business to tell women they don't have the right to choice. It's not that simple. I think that there are ethics to be discussed and decided on. I don't think anyone else's ethics should decide what I can or cannot do to my uterus.
Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914	April 19th, 2007 at 01:07pm Ol' Blue Eyes.: Anji: druscilla; in rags: If you're against abortion, don't get one. It's that simple. I'm pro-choice but I don't tell people to get abortions. It's none of my fucking business. But pro-lifers make it their business to tell women they don't have the right to choice. It's not that simple. I think that there are ethics to be discussed and decided on. But ethics differ from person to person. Basically, what it comes down to, is the fact that it is a woman's decision to have an abortion. And I think that if she can live with the choice she made, then she should be allowed to make it. She hasn't much discussed her views though. She said previously she doesn't like abortions and yet she says that she's pro-choice or whatever. I'd like her to elaborate.
Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914	April 19th, 2007 at 01:08pm druscilla; in rags: Anji: druscilla; in rags: If you're against abortion, don't get one. It's that simple. I'm pro-choice but I don't tell people to get abortions. It's none of my fucking business. But pro-lifers make it their business to tell women they don't have the right to choice. It's not that simple. I think that there are ethics to be discussed and decided on. I don't think anyone else's ethics should decide what I can or cannot do to my uterus. If murder is involved, maybe it should.
Brendon Urie.. King For A Couple Of Days Age: 38 Gender: Female Posts: 2394	April 19th, 2007 at 01:11pm Anji: Ol' Blue Eyes.: Anji: druscilla; in rags: If you're against abortion, don't get one. It's that simple. I'm pro-choice but I don't tell people to get abortions. It's none of my fucking business. But pro-lifers make it their business to tell women they don't have the right to choice. It's not that simple. I think that there are ethics to be discussed and decided on. But ethics differ from person to person. Basically, what it comes down to, is the fact that it is a woman's decision to have an abortion. And I think that if she can live with the choice she made, then she should be allowed to make it. She hasn't much discussed her views though. She said previously she doesn't like abortions and yet she says that she's pro-choice or whatever. I'd like her to elaborate. I don't like abortions. I wish they weren't necessary. But they are sometimes. I would never personally get one unless I were going to die, I was raped, or I got pregnant with 8 children and got rid of some of embryos so the risk to myself, my children, and my future is diminished. If my fiance were going to die in childbirth, I would want her to get an abortion. Those are my choice and my decisions. I respect the right for other women to make their own decisions when it comes to their bodies. Ideally we should live in a society where abortion isn't necessary. We do not live in that society. Another woman's choice about abortion is not mine. Therefore, I respect her right to make the choice. It is hers. Not her governor's, not the president's, not her husband's, not her mother's, not mine. I respect her choice.
Ol' Blue Eyes. King For A Couple Of Days Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 4816	April 19th, 2007 at 01:12pm Anji: Ol' Blue Eyes.: Anji: druscilla; in rags: If you're against abortion, don't get one. It's that simple. I'm pro-choice but I don't tell people to get abortions. It's none of my fucking business. But pro-lifers make it their business to tell women they don't have the right to choice. It's not that simple. I think that there are ethics to be discussed and decided on. But ethics differ from person to person. Basically, what it comes down to, is the fact that it is a woman's decision to have an abortion. And I think that if she can live with the choice she made, then she should be allowed to make it. She hasn't much discussed her views though. She said previously she doesn't like abortions and yet she says that she's pro-choice or whatever. I'd like her to elaborate. Personally, I would never get an abortion, but I refuse to force my own views on another woman. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think she's the same way.
Ol' Blue Eyes. King For A Couple Of Days Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 4816	April 19th, 2007 at 01:13pm druscilla; in rags: Anji: Ol' Blue Eyes.: Anji: druscilla; in rags: If you're against abortion, don't get one. It's that simple. I'm pro-choice but I don't tell people to get abortions. It's none of my fucking business. But pro-lifers make it their business to tell women they don't have the right to choice. It's not that simple. I think that there are ethics to be discussed and decided on. But ethics differ from person to person. Basically, what it comes down to, is the fact that it is a woman's decision to have an abortion. And I think that if she can live with the choice she made, then she should be allowed to make it. She hasn't much discussed her views though. She said previously she doesn't like abortions and yet she says that she's pro-choice or whatever. I'd like her to elaborate. I don't like abortions. I wish they weren't necessary. But they are sometimes. I would never personally get one unless I were going to die, I was raped, or I got pregnant with 8 children and got rid of some of embryos so the risk to myself, my children, and my future is diminished. If my fiance were going to die in childbirth, I would want her to get an abortion. Those are my choice and my decisions. I respect the right for other women to make their own decisions when it comes to their bodies. Ideally we should live in a society where abortion isn't necessary. We do not live in that society. Another woman's choice about abortion is not mine. Therefore, I respect her right to make the choice. It is hers. Not her governor's, not the president's, not her husband's, not her mother's, not mine. I respect her choice.
Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914	April 19th, 2007 at 01:13pm Why don't you like abortions?
Brendon Urie.. King For A Couple Of Days Age: 38 Gender: Female Posts: 2394	April 19th, 2007 at 01:15pm Anji: Why don't you like abortions? I don't like abortions for birth-control because it suggests stupidity on the part of the mother. I don't like abortions where the mother was raped because it means she was violated. I don't like abortions where the mother used protection because it means it's not her fault. I don't like abortions where the mother feels like she cannot care for the child because it means there is a problem. I don't like abortions because it means there is something wrong.
cabot gal GSBitch Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 76863	April 19th, 2007 at 01:22pm Moved from the animal disection thread. druscilla; in rags: No. I am pro-choice. I want abortion to be legal so women have the opportunity to make their own choice. "Pro" means for. I am not for abortion. I am for choice. ...But you're for the right to have an abortion. Meaning that you are for abortion to be legal. Whether you like it or not, you are pro-abortion, that is someone's choice, and you believe that they should have the choice to have an abortion.
Brendon Urie.. King For A Couple Of Days Age: 38 Gender: Female Posts: 2394	April 19th, 2007 at 01:23pm Boobmeister: Moved from the animal disection thread. druscilla; in rags: No. I am pro-choice. I want abortion to be legal so women have the opportunity to make their own choice. "Pro" means for. I am not for abortion. I am for choice. ...But you're for the right to have an abortion. Meaning that you are for abortion to be legal. Whether you like it or not, you are pro-abortion, that is someone's choice, and you believe that they should have the choice to have an abortion. Yes. I do respect choice. I do not like abortion. I cannot be "pro" something I do not like. You can call me pro-legalizing abortion. But I am not pro-abortion.
cabot gal GSBitch Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 76863	April 19th, 2007 at 01:25pm druscilla; in rags: Yes. I do respect choice. I do not like abortion. I cannot be "pro" something I do not like. You can call me pro-legalizing abortion. But I am not pro-abortion. But... you can be. I know some people who are pro gay relationships, but they don't like it.
Brendon Urie.. King For A Couple Of Days Age: 38 Gender: Female Posts: 2394	April 19th, 2007 at 01:26pm Moved from Animal Dissection thread. Anji: druscilla; in rags: Boobmeister: druscilla; in rags: I support the choice, not necessarily the decision. If I supported every abortion, then yes I would be pro-abortion. I don't. But you believe abortion should be legal, yes? Making you pro-abortion. No. I am pro-choice. I want abortion to be legal so women have the opportunity to make their own choice. "Pro" means for. I am not for abortion. I am for choice. Call me crazy, but I find that highly contradicting. It's not. I'm for a choice, but that doesn't mean I like the decision. I don't want to make the decision illegal. I hate cheese, but it's not my choice whether or not someone else eats it.
NeoSteph Basket Case Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 16494	April 19th, 2007 at 01:27pm druscilla; in rags: Boobmeister: Moved from the animal disection thread. druscilla; in rags: No. I am pro-choice. I want abortion to be legal so women have the opportunity to make their own choice. "Pro" means for. I am not for abortion. I am for choice. ...But you're for the right to have an abortion. Meaning that you are for abortion to be legal. Whether you like it or not, you are pro-abortion, that is someone's choice, and you believe that they should have the choice to have an abortion. Yes. I do respect choice. I do not like abortion. I cannot be "pro" something I do not like. You can call me pro-legalizing abortion. But I am not pro-abortion. . . . 0_o I understand what you mean that you believe people have the choice to do it if they wish but personally you wouldn't and you don't like it but respect the civili liberty. I get that, but believing that people should have the right to abortion makes you pro-abortion you might not like being labelled but thats what it stands for.
Matt Smith Admin Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 31134	April 19th, 2007 at 01:27pm What of the fact that one generally does have a choice before having sex? With the possible exception of rape, every woman makes the single choice to have sex. Sex, which is an act designed to further the species, which is directly designed to create new life. I think one should always be prepared, when making that choice, of the possible consequence. See, the only person who doesn't have a choice is the potential baby. They never chose to be created, they didn't choose to be unwanted. Seems to me like they're paying for the fact that their mother wasn't entirely prepared.
Brendon Urie.. King For A Couple Of Days Age: 38 Gender: Female Posts: 2394	April 19th, 2007 at 01:29pm Boobmeister: druscilla; in rags: Yes. I do respect choice. I do not like abortion. I cannot be "pro" something I do not like. You can call me pro-legalizing abortion. But I am not pro-abortion. But... you can be. I know some people who are pro gay relationships, but they don't like it. pro â€“adverb 1.in favor of a proposition, opinion, etc. Pro-choice. Pro-keeping abortion legal. Not pro-abortion.

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