Veganism/vegetarianism

Libertina Grimm:

Not. Quite. Sure. What. You're. Getting. At.

Having a blonde day, see.

On the previous thread I was talking about how dairy products are technically not suited for human comsumption.

Ahh, so we're getting at the smae point then?

Libertina Grimm:

Ahh, so we're getting at the smae point then?

...Similar. I think.

I read an interesting article today, about vegans not wanting sexual relationships with non vegans.
Although I didn't agree with them, I made for a good read which I'll type up and post later on

Article from the Dominion Post, 31st July 07
(New Zealand)

'NO SEX please, you're a carnivore.
A new phenomenon in New Zealand is taking the idea that you are what you eat to the extreme.
"Vegansexuals", are people who do not eat any meat or animal products, and who choose not to be sexually intimate with non vegans whose bodies, they say, are made up of dead animals.
Annie Potts, co-director of the Centre for Humand and Animal Studies at Canterbury University, said she coined the term after doing reasearch on the lives and experiences of "cruelty-free consumers".
Cruelty-Free Consumption in new Zealand: A National Rreport on the Perspectives and Experiences of Vegetarians and other Ethical Consumers asked 157 people nationwide about everything from battery chickens to sexual preferences.
Many women described being attracted to people who ate meat but said they did not want to have sex with them because their bodies were made up of animal carcasses. "It's a whole new thing. I have not come across it before," Dr. Potts said.
One vegan told her, "I believe we are what we consume, so I really struggle with bodily fluids, especially sexually."
Another vegan respondant said she found non-vegans attractive, but would not want to be physically close to them. "I would not want to be intimate with someone whose body is made up from the bodies of others who have died for their sustenance."
"Non-vegan bodies smell different to me- they are, after all, literally sustained through carcasses- the murdered flesh of others."
A 49-year-old vegan said a relationship with a meat eater was unlikely to succeed. "I couldn't think of kissing lips that allow dead animals to pass between them."

So what do you think? Are they taking it too far? Are they justified?

(apologies for any grammar errors)

Oh my God. Even begans are made from dead animals, for crying out loud. People cannot spend their entire lives as vegans, growing up, you will need the essential nurtients found in animal meat.

Anyway, if they 'are what [they] consume' I don't want to have sex with a fucking vegetable.

That is absolutely ridiculous.

Anji:

Anyway, if they 'are what [they] consume' I don't want to have sex with a fucking vegetable.

Amen to that!

There's also a brilliant new trend of like... Dunno the word for them so I'll call them Super Vegans who don't eat anything that kills a plant.
THAT is just ridiculous. There's no way it can be healthy

Libertina Grimm:

There's no way it can be healthy

Sure there is. If you balance out the incomplete proteins in the foods you do eat, it would be the same as getting the complete proteins. Alot of plant-produced foods are harvested anyways, is isnt like they're living off of grapes and bananas.

Libertina Grimm:

Article from the Dominion Post, 31st July 07
(New Zealand)

'NO SEX please, you're a carnivore.
A new phenomenon in New Zealand is taking the idea that you are what you eat to the extreme.
"Vegansexuals", are people who do not eat any meat or animal products, and who choose not to be sexually intimate with non vegans whose bodies, they say, are made up of dead animals.
Annie Potts, co-director of the Centre for Humand and Animal Studies at Canterbury University, said she coined the term after doing reasearch on the lives and experiences of "cruelty-free consumers".
Cruelty-Free Consumption in new Zealand: A National Rreport on the Perspectives and Experiences of Vegetarians and other Ethical Consumers asked 157 people nationwide about everything from battery chickens to sexual preferences.
Many women described being attracted to people who ate meat but said they did not want to have sex with them because their bodies were made up of animal carcasses. "It's a whole new thing. I have not come across it before," Dr. Potts said.
One vegan told her, "I believe we are what we consume, so I really struggle with bodily fluids, especially sexually."
Another vegan respondant said she found non-vegans attractive, but would not want to be physically close to them. "I would not want to be intimate with someone whose body is made up from the bodies of others who have died for their sustenance."
"Non-vegan bodies smell different to me- they are, after all, literally sustained through carcasses- the murdered flesh of others."
A 49-year-old vegan said a relationship with a meat eater was unlikely to succeed. "I couldn't think of kissing lips that allow dead animals to pass between them."

So what do you think? Are they taking it too far? Are they justified?

(apologies for any grammar errors)

Vegetables have feelings too You think getting ripped out of the ground and having yourself been chewed up by a massive vegan is fun?

k, that was a joke. [a bad one]

Anyway, that's ridiculous. Humans have pointy teeth for a reason. This sorta reminds me of PETA, who have good ideas but just seem to ... overreact.

anti social:

Anyway, that's ridiculous. Humans have pointy teeth for a reason. This sorta reminds me of PETA, who have good ideas but just seem to ... overreact.[/color]

OMG! One thing I want to do before I die is just eat a nice steak infront of a whole lot of PETA activists. Maybe with a side order of crickets.

I don't even care about making them see sense anymore, I just want to humiliate them. My methods of protest are very crude, I do realise that.

Libertina Grimm:

Article from the Dominion Post, 31st July 07
(New Zealand)

'NO SEX please, you're a carnivore.
A new phenomenon in New Zealand is taking the idea that you are what you eat to the extreme.
"Vegansexuals", are people who do not eat any meat or animal products, and who choose not to be sexually intimate with non vegans whose bodies, they say, are made up of dead animals.
Annie Potts, co-director of the Centre for Humand and Animal Studies at Canterbury University, said she coined the term after doing reasearch on the lives and experiences of "cruelty-free consumers".
Cruelty-Free Consumption in new Zealand: A National Rreport on the Perspectives and Experiences of Vegetarians and other Ethical Consumers asked 157 people nationwide about everything from battery chickens to sexual preferences.
Many women described being attracted to people who ate meat but said they did not want to have sex with them because their bodies were made up of animal carcasses. "It's a whole new thing. I have not come across it before," Dr. Potts said.
One vegan told her, "I believe we are what we consume, so I really struggle with bodily fluids, especially sexually."
Another vegan respondant said she found non-vegans attractive, but would not want to be physically close to them. "I would not want to be intimate with someone whose body is made up from the bodies of others who have died for their sustenance."
"Non-vegan bodies smell different to me- they are, after all, literally sustained through carcasses- the murdered flesh of others."
A 49-year-old vegan said a relationship with a meat eater was unlikely to succeed. "I couldn't think of kissing lips that allow dead animals to pass between them."

So what do you think? Are they taking it too far? Are they justified?

(apologies for any grammar errors)

That's pretty funny. It's not like they used their genitals to eat the meat. I mean, I'd assume so, anyways. Besides, they most probably came from meat eaters, so are they protesting against their own birth? They were born from and sustained by meat eaters.

Although I wouldn't let my ex boyfriend kiss me if he'd just eaten meat. My sister does the same thing with her boyfriend, and my parents laughed at her, so I was just like "uh, hahaha "

Anji:

OMG! One thing I want to do before I die is just eat a nice steak infront of a whole lot of PETA activists. Maybe with a side order of crickets.

That'd be hilarious. Really, they'd be attacking you with fliers and citing the many different ways how a cow can die and how insanely painful it is. And weird stuff like that. o_O

Kurtni:

Libertina Grimm:

There's no way it can be healthy

Sure there is. If you balance out the incomplete proteins in the foods you do eat, it would be the same as getting the complete proteins. Alot of plant-produced foods are harvested anyways, is isnt like they're living off of grapes and bananas.

Yeah, it can be healthy. Beans and chick peas actually have a lot of Iron and Protein, so if those are included in a vegetarian diet, it can be quite healthy.

I don't know. To me it's just taking it way too far.

There was some sign up in KFC saying "Our chickens are raised on a healthy diet of corn"


Also on my letter from Tesco they say they're 'moving away from intensively farmed produce'

oooh I have a recent update to add to this thread

When you buy your life insurance it's now cheaper for vegetarians because it's proven they live healthier lives. Now some would disagree saying this is unfair because it's also proven that meat is a healthy part of a diet and that most vegetarians take iron tablets or supplements to make up the balance and that the life expentancy difference is not that great.


discuss.

What I'd like to know is how easy it is to pretend to be a vegetarian just for the purpose of cheaper life insurance. There's bound to be people taking advantage of that.

I'd also like to see the proof that vegetarians are healthier, because they're also proven to be more stupid and gullible and join organisations like PETA because they think it's cool.

Anji:

What I'd like to know is how easy it is to pretend to be a vegetarian just for the purpose of cheaper life insurance. There's bound to be people taking advantage of that.

I'd also like to see the proof that vegetarians are healthier, because they're also proven to be more stupid and gullible and join organisations like PETA because they think it's cool.

I didn't know vegetarians got cheaper life insurance,thats kind of silly. There are plenty of unhealthy foods vegetarians could eat. Potentially, it could be a very healthy diet, but it doesn't have to be.

Not all vegetarians join organizations like PETA.Peta fails.

Kurtni:

Anji:

What I'd like to know is how easy it is to pretend to be a vegetarian just for the purpose of cheaper life insurance. There's bound to be people taking advantage of that.

I'd also like to see the proof that vegetarians are healthier, because they're also proven to be more stupid and gullible and join organisations like PETA because they think it's cool.

I didn't know vegetarians got cheaper life insurance,thats kind of silly. There are plenty of unhealthy foods vegetarians could eat. Potentially, it could be a very healthy diet, but it doesn't have to be.

Not all vegetarians join organizations like PETA.Peta fails.

I know, but if they must generalise meat eaters, then I'll do just the same for vegetarians.

Vegetarians can't eat McDonald's burgers, generally they will be healthier but I don't think that should affect life insurance.