Why Don't You Believe?

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Alex Skela
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March 1st, 2006 at 08:15pm
[quote="well durr."][quote="Bloodraine"]
well durr.:
Bloodraine:
well durr.:


1.] everyone sins except Him.
2.] you have it wrong. thats not how it works.
3.] we don't discriminate half the time. just against it.

its all about faith.
go to your pastor and ask those questions.
it would do you some decency.

The various men and women who wrote the Bible were sinners, following that logic. So you contradict youself there.

My guess is the person to whom you speak is not a Christian, they will not have a pastor or a priest or vicar.


i re-read it.
but i said, everyone sins already?


I think everyone has sinned in their life
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March 1st, 2006 at 09:02pm
"My Questions/Statements.
1.] How can you trust the bible if it's written by man who are sinners?
2.] Christians are told they have free will. 'Do what I say or die and burn in hell.' That doesn't sound like free will to me.
3.] If Christians are supposed to love eachother as thy selves or whatever. How come they always discriminate other religions and homosexuals? That's not very loving. "

1. The bible wasnt written by God or Jesus, the only 2 Holy Figures to not sin. it was written by other people to spread God's word and inform of his exsistence

2. That isnt what the bible says at all. It says you have control over your life. God doesnt make you worship him, its your choice. heaven is the Ultimate paradise, therefore, because God created it for people who live good lives and follow the ten commandments, you choose to obey what he says, he never forces you to do anything. "Do what I say or burn in Hell" is a suggestion, he isnt tampering with your free will at all. Also, look through the bible and tell me where you see "Do what I say, or burn in hell" The whole message behind the Christian Faith is you can be forgiven for your sins, so even if you were to disobey Gods word, your not going to hell, according to the Bible, Jesus Died on the Cross for our sins, so I dont see how free will is being messed with here at all.

3. Do you see Jewish people preaching about Christianity? Or people of the Islamic Faith? No, because that isnt what they believe, so of course they are going to promote what they believe. While on this subject, it isnt like Christians go out of their way to demean other religions, that wasnt the best question to try and prove you point. As to the second part, Homosexuality goes against the bible. It would be hypocritical of them not to be against it. It would be like them reading through and Saying" Oh, lets see, Hmm that part says murdering people is wrong, lets exclude that, Oh, and that says you cant sleep around on your wife, lets get rid of that or Im going to hell. Hey, my cousins gay, lets cross that out too."

Its just part of the Faith, marriage is between a man and a woman in the bible. I can find other demeaning things in other religions too, but its part of the Faith, its what they believe. It has nothing to do with being loving, it has to do with morals.


Shifty I havnt been to Church in like a year, I have no clue where that came from, I have seen this thread and just decided to get involved. I swear, I think Im glowing a little, all Im missing is a halo Shocked
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March 10th, 2006 at 12:07pm
I'm a Christian. People say if theres a God why are there so many wars and bad things in the world, but thats what people made it like. God gave us free-will, the will to choose whether or not we believe in religion and the choice of how we live our lives. Some people unfortunately chose to live their lives being evil people going around doing horrible things. Im not saying Christians are perfect people because i'm not. I still do things I shouldnt and swear etc.. but that doesnt make you a bad person. Perhaps if more people believed and had faith then there wouldnt be so many horrible people.
But at the same time I know there are people who dont believe in anything and are still good people because I have friends like that.


Do you think that some religions are dangerous, because there are some that go around saying kill anyone who doesnt believe in certain things, and thats not exactly a good religion.
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March 10th, 2006 at 12:20pm
Has anyone brought up the Cosmological Argument yet?

I studied it recently in school.

Yes, I am far too lazy to read all 27 pages.
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March 11th, 2006 at 02:44pm
I'm not sure yet....

That's all I gotta say.
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March 11th, 2006 at 02:50pm
i just don't thin kthere is enough evidence to prove he is real , but i don't think there is enough to say he isn't
anyone could of wrote hte story of the bible
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March 15th, 2006 at 06:07pm
Viva La Stupid:
i just don't thin kthere is enough evidence to prove he is real , but i don't think there is enough to say he isn't
anyone could of wrote hte story of the bible

why do you think its just a "story", you dont question your history textbooks at school do you? the "stories" in the textbooks were actual event referenced to real people. are you saying that the prophets other people who wrote the bible arent real. what proof other than the textbooks do you have that some people you HAVENT EVEN met actually exist.

[obviously they exist or they would make it maditory that its taught in school, im just trying to prove a point!]
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March 15th, 2006 at 06:20pm
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anyone could of wrote hte story of the bible

why do you think its just a "story", you dont question your history textbooks at school do you? the "stories" in the textbooks were actual event referenced to real people. are you saying that the prophets other people who wrote the bible arent real. what proof other than the textbooks do you have that some people you HAVENT EVEN met actually exist.
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I agree with this post
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March 15th, 2006 at 07:10pm
Tyler:
LovesBillieJoe:
Viva La Stupid:

anyone could of wrote hte story of the bible

why do you think its just a "story", you dont question your history textbooks at school do you? the "stories" in the textbooks were actual event referenced to real people. are you saying that the prophets other people who wrote the bible arent real. what proof other than the textbooks do you have that some people you HAVENT EVEN met actually exist.


I agree with this post


is this what you meant to say?? ^
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March 16th, 2006 at 07:04am
Billie Joe is god. So yes.
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March 16th, 2006 at 09:20am
Billie Joe is my hero:
Billie Joe is god. So yes.

You are so right my dear... Very Happy
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March 16th, 2006 at 10:37am
wtf:
Billie Joe is my hero:
Billie Joe is god. So yes.

You are so right my dear... Very Happy


billie joe is not god he is far from god!
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March 16th, 2006 at 11:10am
LovesBillieJoe:
why do you think its just a "story", you dont question your history textbooks at school do you? the "stories" in the textbooks were actual event referenced to real people. are you saying that the prophets other people who wrote the bible arent real. what proof other than the textbooks do you have that some people you HAVENT EVEN met actually exist.

[obviously they exist or they would make it maditory that its taught in school, im just trying to prove a point!]

Isn't that what the parables are? Wink

They are stories, no?. As is Genesis.

I believe your comparison here has little meaning. History is based on fact, the Bible may not be.
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March 16th, 2006 at 03:13pm
LovesBillieJoe:
Viva La Stupid:
i just don't thin kthere is enough evidence to prove he is real , but i don't think there is enough to say he isn't
anyone could of wrote hte story of the bible

why do you think its just a "story", you dont question your history textbooks at school do you? the "stories" in the textbooks were actual event referenced to real people. are you saying that the prophets other people who wrote the bible arent real. what proof other than the textbooks do you have that some people you HAVENT EVEN met actually exist.

[obviously they exist or they would make it maditory that its taught in school, im just trying to prove a point!]


i didn't mean story as in fairytale , Rolling Eyes read the last part , " .....i don't think there is enough to say he isn't " (real)
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March 16th, 2006 at 03:14pm
wtf:
Billie Joe is my hero:
Billie Joe is god. So yes.

You are so right my dear... Very Happy


wtf this is a "serious" issue , what a dumbass responce Rolling Eyes
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March 16th, 2006 at 03:18pm
Bloodraine:
LovesBillieJoe:
why do you think its just a "story", you dont question your history textbooks at school do you? the "stories" in the textbooks were actual event referenced to real people. are you saying that the prophets other people who wrote the bible arent real. what proof other than the textbooks do you have that some people you HAVENT EVEN met actually exist.

[obviously they exist or they would make it maditory that its taught in school, im just trying to prove a point!]

Isn't that what the parables are? Wink

They are stories, no?. As is Genesis.

I believe your comparison here has little meaning. History is based on fact, the Bible may not be.


History can be just as flawed as the bible, individuals write different accounts of what happened as the years change truth can become manipulated.

for example it's a very taught idea that thomas edison invented electricity when in fact it was a lesser known scientist named swann.

the government decides what books our taught in school, the next time you open a text book remember that every page has been screened to make sure it fits the accounts they want to be known.
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March 16th, 2006 at 03:25pm
NeoSteph:
History can be just as flawed as the bible, individuals write different accounts of what happened as the years change truth can become manipulated.

for example it's a very taught idea that thomas edison invented electricity when in fact it was a lesser known scientist named swann.

the government decides what books our taught in school, the next time you open a text book remember that every page has been screened to make sure it fits the accounts they want to be known.

That may be so, I won't dispute that...

But which would you rather believe?

History or the Bible?

I personally would put my faith in History. Yes, History will always be jaded and become less accurate over time...as generations pass mistakes will be made and things will become hidden and forgotten with the passing years.

Actually, there's a point. Couldn't the same be true of the Bible? Wink
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March 16th, 2006 at 03:32pm
.... but to me most of hte bible is just plain ridiculous , seriously
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March 16th, 2006 at 03:32pm
Bloodraine:
NeoSteph:
History can be just as flawed as the bible, individuals write different accounts of what happened as the years change truth can become manipulated.

for example it's a very taught idea that thomas edison invented electricity when in fact it was a lesser known scientist named swann.

the government decides what books our taught in school, the next time you open a text book remember that every page has been screened to make sure it fits the accounts they want to be known.

That may be so, I won't dispute that...

But which would you rather believe?

History or the Bible?

I personally would put my faith in History. Yes, History will always be jaded and become less accurate over time...as generations pass mistakes will be made and things will become hidden and forgotten with the passing years.

Actually, there's a point. Couldn't the same be true of the Bible? Wink


I don't see them as different The Bible is apart of our history it's one of the only standing documents that pre-dates roman times.

read it like a textbook, what you said is basically what I say you can't 100 percent trust something thats written by others.

the whole idea of the bible is not to follow fact but to follow faith, blind sided as that maybe.
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March 16th, 2006 at 03:36pm
NeoSteph:
Bloodraine:
NeoSteph:
History can be just as flawed as the bible, individuals write different accounts of what happened as the years change truth can become manipulated.

for example it's a very taught idea that thomas edison invented electricity when in fact it was a lesser known scientist named swann.

the government decides what books our taught in school, the next time you open a text book remember that every page has been screened to make sure it fits the accounts they want to be known.

That may be so, I won't dispute that...

But which would you rather believe?

History or the Bible?

I personally would put my faith in History. Yes, History will always be jaded and become less accurate over time...as generations pass mistakes will be made and things will become hidden and forgotten with the passing years.

Actually, there's a point. Couldn't the same be true of the Bible? Wink


I don't see them as different The Bible is apart of our history it's one of the only standing documents that pre-dates roman times.

read it like a textbook, what you said is basically what I say you can't 100 percent trust something thats written by others.

the whole idea of the bible is not to follow fact but to follow faith, blind sided as that maybe.


but if you have common sense , its obvious that someone can not rise form the dead 3 days after his death
or walk on water , what the hell it says
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