Why Don't You Believe?

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Nine_Inch_Nails
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May 5th, 2006 at 01:17pm
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I mean come on a baby cant just pop out of you without sex.

It can.
Happens an awful lot these days.


These days, yeah.
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May 5th, 2006 at 01:18pm
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Bloodraine:
Patrice.:
I mean come on a baby cant just pop out of you without sex.

It can.
Happens an awful lot these days.


These days, yeah.

See if she'd have said 'back then', I wouldn't have contested it.
You have to be specific with me. Cool
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May 5th, 2006 at 01:20pm
Bloodraine:
A Clockwork Orange:
Bloodraine:
Patrice.:
I mean come on a baby cant just pop out of you without sex.

It can.
Happens an awful lot these days.


These days, yeah.

See if she'd have said 'back then', I wouldn't have contested it.
You have to be specific with me. Cool


Haha, fair enough then =)
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May 5th, 2006 at 05:16pm
Patrice.:
I believe there is a God but i'm not totaly sure about Jesus I mean come on a baby cant just pop out of you without sex. Other than that i believe in some part's of the bible.

Well, if you believe in God, he can do pretty much whatever the hell he wants right? He couldnt impregnant someone with his "holy powers"?
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May 29th, 2006 at 11:16pm
I believe in God. I go to Church every weekend and I just resently got confirmated. It is hard but I believe in God and I'm proud of it!
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May 30th, 2006 at 12:12am
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I don't believe in God, the evidence for the big bang, Darwin's theory is too strong. The arguments for God contradict themselves. An argument for God says that everything has a beginning and therefore something must have created it i.e God, but then Christianity says that God has always been there. Shocked contradiction
Everything does have a begining. Everything has begun except God cause he was always there. Everything has an end....Ok now you got me thinking about the universe o_O. If everything has an ending......when does the whole universe end? Does it get sucked into a black hole....and then just be blank space? woooooow
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May 30th, 2006 at 12:16am
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I don't believe in God, the evidence for the big bang, Darwin's theory is too strong. The arguments for God contradict themselves. An argument for God says that everything has a beginning and therefore something must have created it i.e God, but then Christianity says that God has always been there. Shocked contradiction
Everything does have a begining. Everything has begun except God cause he was always there. Everything has an end....Ok now you got me thinking about the universe o_O. If everything has an ending......when does the whole universe end? Does it get sucked into a black hole....and then just be blank space? woooooow
Supposedly, the universe is constantly expanding, and growing. Once it reaches it's limits, it will rapidly begin to collapse on itself (rapidly would still mean thousands of years) and end up in a small, dense, ball of matter, and ultimately form all over again, recycle itself. That theory is based on red shifts and blue shifts. It is only a theory, as was everything in the previously stated arguement, it cannot be proven. Until we can get outside our own universes, I have problems buying that idea. How do we know what is happening in parts of the universe we don't even know are there? Just because we're expanding doesnt mean something else is. And what defines the limits of the universe, can soace just run out? o_O Big questions....
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May 30th, 2006 at 09:36am
I used to believe when i was younger but then i started to think more and i became aganostic.

I am now atheist. I think this may have something to do with my parent's beliefs and how horrible things have happened.

I know that people say that people suffer because it's all part of God's plan. If God was all mighty and powerfull souldn't he be able to make a plan where no one suffers to get to ultimate paradise? Surely he would do that if he loved all of us.

I recently went to my friends baptism and the whole atmosphere scared me and made me feel very claustraphobic. I don't believe that being a christian can make me any happier in my life.
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May 30th, 2006 at 07:43pm
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I know that people say that people suffer because it's all part of God's plan.


I think people that say that just use a lame excuse to give a reason to things that aren't fair or that they can't explain.
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June 1st, 2006 at 03:39pm
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I used to believe when i was younger but then i started to think more and i became aganostic.

I am now atheist. I think this may have something to do with my parent's beliefs and how horrible things have happened.

I know that people say that people suffer because it's all part of God's plan. If God was all mighty and powerfull souldn't he be able to make a plan where no one suffers to get to ultimate paradise? Surely he would do that if he loved all of us.

I recently went to my friends baptism and the whole atmosphere scared me and made me feel very claustraphobic. I don't believe that being a christian can make me any happier in my life.
What would be the point of living? If he did that...then he wouldnt have had to make earth or anything. o-o


Your so right.
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June 1st, 2006 at 04:45pm
i probably already replied like, 3 times to this thread but what the hell.

no. i do not belive in a higher power. i think it was just this way. all atoms were packed into a speck, about the size of the sun (i mean a speck in universe size terms.) and it just couldnt hold the pressure. so it exploded, atoms and molecules were flyig thousands of times faster than light in every direction, at 5 billion degrees (ok, maybe a bit cooler) things settled down 100m illion years later stars began to form, then planets, then water, and on earth, then humans came around. its all about science to me

we live, we die, and we rot in the ground. i know it sucks ass. XD
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June 1st, 2006 at 04:50pm
I don't believe due to the over whelming amount of science to contradict it.

Although Im agnostic(Doesn't believe, but doesn't deny the fact there COULD be a higher power) I'm going towards the not believaing at all way of life.

And as for an afterlife? Walk towards the light and find out for yourself.
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June 1st, 2006 at 11:11pm
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Okay My question is 'Why Don't You Believe In God?'

My reason is for asking is. I don't. But my friend drags me to church or youth group every so often. Everyone there thinks I do believe in God. Tonight she dragged me there for the first time in 5 months. The youth pastor was talking about future youth nights and what we would discuss. One topic caught my attention. We're gonna talk about doubts & creationism vs. evolution. They're gonna give us a piece of paper and we can ask whatever and they should be able to come up with an answer supporting Christianity. But I wanna give them a question that they can't answer. So that's where I want yall to help me. I only have a few questions I can think of. And anymore would be helpful so yeah, Type away.

My Questions/Statements.
1.] How can you trust the bible if it's written by man who are sinners?
2.] Christians are told they have free will. 'Do what I say or die and burn in hell.' That doesn't sound like free will to me.
3.] If Christians are supposed to love eachother as thy selves or whatever. How come they always discriminate other religions and homosexuals? That's not very loving.

That's all I can think of.


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1]How can you trust your father, your mother, your girl/boyfriend, your best friend, if they are sinners. You've already assumed we are all sinners, true, but if we base our trust on that, we wouldn't trust anyone. God used these men as tools in order to attempt to put His Glory into words. Have you read the bible?

2]This is an easy one. God gave us free will, which means you have the choice to "not listen and go to hell." Free will is the freedom to make your own choices, not just too choose if you go to heaven or not. Thats like having endless amounts of money and its just open for everyone because they have "free will"

3]What you're doing in this question is your throwing a couple peoples bad actions as the whole church's actions.

The Church (when people refer to the church, it is assumed it is the catholic one. check dan browns books) makes a deep effort to find similarities and bond with other religions. Check it:

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/documents/rc_pc_interelg_20060504_vesakh2006_en.html

It is a letter to the buddhists talking about love. check.

As for homosexuals. We do not discriminate against gays. "Love the sinner, but hate the sin."

It is discouraged because it is against the natural order of things. That man meets a woman, completing the complementaries, and therefore reproducing in a loving meaningful way. Homosexuality goes directly against God's natural order. (This is only the act. Think whatever you want in your head)




Now for you science freaks. I feel that science only proves God. You say- look at the big bang (regardless that that is already being disproven- ITS ONLY A THEORY-), i say, look at God making the big bang. You cannot honestly believe that two atoms just happened to collide, making an explosion, creating even this planet, which just so happens to be perfect in every way that it can hold us in a perfect living status. If you changed any mesurement, its location, or anything about the sun, or any other planet, it would throw out every aspect we know in our enviroment. We would cease to live.

For every creation, there is a creator. If you honestly believe that the earth was just some calamity, the needle in the haystack, you have very little faith. Your trying to provide an answer for something God has already provided you with. You are so little in literals.

Darwin has also proved God. That when our creation does change, our DNA and whatnot can change also so that we may continue to live. Why do you just assume that because something new shows up- it disproves God. Does darwins theory ever mention God?

Before you drag on christianity, learn more about it. Theres so many answers, and you seem to think you have them all. I know that even I dont, but maybe you'll have some now.

Also, in order to be an athiest, to say bluntly there is no God, you would have to know everything about everything in order to say such a thing. Athiesm is impossible. You are agnostic. You must omniscient in order to be athiest.
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June 1st, 2006 at 11:13pm
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i probably already replied like, 3 times to this thread but what the hell.

no. i do not belive in a higher power. i think it was just this way. all atoms were packed into a speck, about the size of the sun (i mean a speck in universe size terms.) and it just couldnt hold the pressure. so it exploded, atoms and molecules were flyig thousands of times faster than light in every direction, at 5 billion degrees (ok, maybe a bit cooler) things settled down 100m illion years later stars began to form, then planets, then water, and on earth, then humans came around. its all about science to me

we live, we die, and we rot in the ground. i know it sucks ass. XD


they were not packed. It was the tiniest speck (not the size of a sun, even smaller than a pencil point), where two atoms collided. For more info on how the big bang worked google it, or read Angels and Demons (another Dan Brown wonder), and it shows how we have already made our own "Big" Bang.
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June 1st, 2006 at 11:16pm
zdf_jammin:
Don't You Touch My Belt!:
i probably already replied like, 3 times to this thread but what the hell.

no. i do not belive in a higher power. i think it was just this way. all atoms were packed into a speck, about the size of the sun (i mean a speck in universe size terms.) and it just couldnt hold the pressure. so it exploded, atoms and molecules were flyig thousands of times faster than light in every direction, at 5 billion degrees (ok, maybe a bit cooler) things settled down 100m illion years later stars began to form, then planets, then water, and on earth, then humans came around. its all about science to me

we live, we die, and we rot in the ground. i know it sucks ass. XD


they were not packed. It was the tiniest speck (not the size of a sun, even smaller than a pencil point), where two atoms collided. For more info on how the big bang worked google it, or read Angels and Demons (another Dan Brown wonder), and it shows how we have already made our own "Big" Bang.
What I'd like to know is how scientists explaining that matter getting there in the first place... Cool
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June 2nd, 2006 at 04:27pm
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I don't believe in God, the evidence for the big bang, Darwin's theory is too strong. The arguments for God contradict themselves. An argument for God says that everything has a beginning and therefore something must have created it i.e God, but then Christianity says that God has always been there. Shocked contradiction
Everything does have a begining. Everything has begun except God cause he was always there. Everything has an end....Ok now you got me thinking about the universe o_O. If everything has an ending......when does the whole universe end? Does it get sucked into a black hole....and then just be blank space? woooooow

"God" as a concept has no beginning and no end. The majority of religions based in the premise of an all-powerful and almighty higher being acknowledge this through the following logic:
God is everything and nothing.
Existence and non-existence.
Life and death, pain and pleasure, suffering and happiness.
How can someone or something be all-encompassing if it does not take on both positive and negative attributes? While it appears to be a paradox, it is not. By the nature of totality, this creator cannot be the One Creator with only the tangible logical attributes--it must also be the opposing forces of these attributes.
Therefore, God is and is not.



And now I can say that as an atheist, I am not so different from a Christian or a Muslim or a Jew or any person with any religion at all.

Gandhi said, "God has no religion" and "All religions are true."
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June 5th, 2006 at 12:20pm
I beleive in him cause my parents do but personally I don't wanna beleive in any god,
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June 5th, 2006 at 02:16pm
Meski:
I beleive in him cause my parents do but personally I don't wanna beleive in any god,
Then dont. Confused
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June 5th, 2006 at 05:54pm
Because there's nothing to back up the existance of God.
If you had never heard of God, you wouldn't believe in him, right? So if instead, a long time ago, people had decided to worship a celestial goat or something, is that what you would believe now?
And there's way to many questions and contradictions in the Bible, like all living beings were created in the same day, but dinosaurs lived hundereds of billions of years ago. In fact, the Bible contradicts the whole evolution theory. Yes, it is a theory, but there's much more evidence for it than we were all simply just created by God.
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June 6th, 2006 at 05:04am
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Because there's nothing to back up the existance of God.
If you had never heard of God, you wouldn't believe in him, right? So if instead, a long time ago, people had decided to worship a celestial goat or something, is that what you would believe now?
And there's way to many questions and contradictions in the Bible, like all living beings were created in the same day, but dinosaurs lived hundereds of billions of years ago. In fact, the Bible contradicts the whole evolution theory. Yes, it is a theory, but there's much more evidence for it than we were all simply just created by God.


the bible is a guidline about how you should live, it could mean somthing differant to me and somthing differant to you, and dinosaurs are mentioned in the bible. Not very much just a few verses but they are there, and theyre not called dinosaurs either
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