Franny. Falling In Love With The Board Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 5246
February 28th, 2008 at 12:50am
Kurtni:
Franny.:
Not just his, it's his and those surrounding him. But because he's the president, he has] to take all blame.
He'll have the lowest approval rating since they started to ask people for their approval ratings...and I don't know how long that's been, but from what I hear, not that long, a hundred or so years?
Wartime presidents usually get a poor approval rating but they're still remembered [somewhat] by the good things they did. Take Harry Truman, he wasn't popular, but we still remember him today for being a good president right? What did he do? I've no idea
But the president is responsible for his approval rating. Other people around him also have low ratings, but he is supporting the same policies as they are, making his rating perfectly suitable. People don't like him, he should have thought of that before he made a bunch of choices that American's didn't want.
I don't know what you mean by wartime presidents having low ratings... that's not true. Bill Clinton left office with a high approval rating and he was a wartime president, that's just recent history. He was able to maintain that in the height of economic crisis and political scandal. Roosevelt was a wartime president, he had one of the highest approval ratings in US history, Truman had a low approval rating during the war because Americans didn't like the way he was handling it, and can you blame them? He was keeping secrets and he deserved his low rating. But, you failed to mention how during the final stages of the war when they stopped hiding so much, his approval ratings went way up. In fact, he holds the record for biggest change in approval ratings.
Ah sorry for the misinformation, I was going by my previous [and limited] knowledge, I didn' t know about Truman's change in approval ratings, I apologize.
I'm definitely not surprised Roosevelt had a good rating, he's one of the best presidents in the 20th century [next to Reagan, but of course, he didn't really have a world war to deal with ]
Pity_The_Clever:
And I hate to interrupt this discussion, but you lost me, has anybody been watching the debates?
I usually watch the MSNBC and CNN ones. I watched the one last night but was indifferent, they have the same policies as they did months ago, yay. At this point, debates won't sway a majority of the voters anyway, so they're, forgive me for saying, unnecessary.
I've also lost interest in the debates because last year I only ever enjoyed the Republican ones. Now that they don't have any, and not that I want to watch McCain and Huckabee go at it, I've lost interest.
I wish it was convention time already, let's get this process moving =P [And I'm glad no one is paying attention to Nader =)]
John Entwistle Great Success! Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 55036
February 28th, 2008 at 11:28am
Kurtni:
I don't know what you mean by wartime presidents having low ratings... that's not true. Bill Clinton left office with a high approval rating and he was a wartime president, that's just recent history. He was able to maintain that in the height of economic crisis and political scandal. Roosevelt was a wartime president, he had one of the highest approval ratings in US history, Truman had a low approval rating during the war because Americans didn't like the way he was handling it, and can you blame them? He was keeping secrets and he deserved his low rating. But, you failed to mention how during the final stages of the war when they stopped hiding so much, his approval ratings went way up. In fact, he holds the record for biggest change in approval ratings.
I have a question. Why is Clinton consided a wartime president? It's not that I disagree, I think I just missed something.
It did. Pretty interesting event really... I mean it's tragic and gruesome, but as far as wars go it's interesting.
Franny. Falling In Love With The Board Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 5246
February 28th, 2008 at 06:43pm
Ok so I'm not the only person who thinks wartime presidents have lower ratings. Tony Snow [ex-White House Press Secretary] said the same thing last night on the Colbert Report [it was in his own words, not written, no teleprompters for Tony]. But I can't remember exactly what he said to support it, but when I re-watch it, I will inform everyone. Just wanted to say so no one thinks I'm crazy and is way off [well actually more of a self-reassurance =P].
Joel McHale. King For A Couple Of Days Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 3974
March 1st, 2008 at 02:40pm
Clinton seems like she's trying to say what will make her more popular, and strike down the other canidates.I think her plans for health care are going to fail, making the poor poorer and get us no where. Obama on the other hand has a good plan, one that will hopefully help my family and I get health insurance again. He seems more of a peaceful canidate and by that I mean he doesn't constantly make attachs againts Sen. Clinton. To me he really does seem like he'll he'll bring change you can believe in.
Clinton seems like she's trying to say what will make her more popular, and strike down the other canidates.I think her plans for health care are going to fail, making the poor poorer and get us no where. Obama on the other hand has a good plan, one that will hopefully help my family and I get health insurance again. He seems more of a peaceful canidate and by that I mean he doesn't constantly make attachs againts Sen. Clinton. To me he really does seem like he'll he'll bring change you can believe in.
You do realize that their health care systems are virtually identical and both based on the congressional health care plan? What do you think makes Obama's different?
Addison Dewitt King For A Couple Of Days Age: 30 Gender: - Posts: 3746
March 2nd, 2008 at 01:33am
March 4th is when....what happens that has to do with the presidential election on March 4th? Shit, I have such a terrible memory. Ohio and Texas are voting?
The health care thing drives me crazy. I've never had health insurance because my mother doesn't get benefits, she's self employeed, so whoever wins, I want Obama, I just hope their plan works. Although they are virtually identical or whatever, I think it's more about who puts the plan into action than the plan itself.
I think it's more about who puts the plan into action than the plan itself.
That would have to be congress... and to be honest I think they've done an awful job with confronting health care issues within the last few years. Whoever wins is going to have to be extremely motivated, determined, and confident in their plan for it to get passed.
Miley Cyrus Basket Case Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 15185
March 2nd, 2008 at 01:45pm
Elmo has a gun:
uhhhhhh how long ago did Mccaine drop out?
Miley Cyrus Basket Case Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 15185
March 2nd, 2008 at 01:49pm
I'm getting pretty sick of the super delegate talk.
They always side with whoever's winning because they want to support what their voters want.
And Texas keeps looking better and better for Obama.
Addison Dewitt King For A Couple Of Days Age: 30 Gender: - Posts: 3746
March 2nd, 2008 at 02:18pm
Kurtni:
Pity_The_Clever:
I think it's more about who puts the plan into action than the plan itself.
That would have to be congress... and to be honest I think they've done an awful job with confronting health care issues within the last few years. Whoever wins is going to have to be extremely motivated, determined, and confident in their plan for it to get passed.
I kind of wonder what any of them would do when they realize they actually have to prove that their plan will work instead of just saying theirs is better.
I think it's more about who puts the plan into action than the plan itself.
That would have to be congress... and to be honest I think they've done an awful job with confronting health care issues within the last few years. Whoever wins is going to have to be extremely motivated, determined, and confident in their plan for it to get passed.
I kind of wonder what any of them would do when they realize they actually have to prove that their plan will work instead of just saying theirs is better.
kinda like when bush said he was gonna start taking troops out of the war.but guess what i read on wii news on the wii system that he decided he wasnt going to do that until he gets out of office.
fancy pants Post Whore Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 22225
I haven't met anyone that supports McCain. Everyone says bad things about him. I don't understand how more people think he can handle things better than Obama.
John Entwistle Great Success! Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 55036
March 3rd, 2008 at 10:09am
I support McCain. But then again it's because I'm not voting for a Democrat and no other Republican has a chance. I don't really like any other candidates anyway.
Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914
March 4th, 2008 at 11:11am
I have a question for Ms. Clinton. Over here in Asia, though we do not receive any of the electorial campaign commercials, we do receive news of them, and anyone correct me if I'm wrong, but in the recent one with the sleeping child and Ms. Clinton asking who the public would want to answer the phone in the White House, well I think currently the trend shows that Mr. Obama is wanted to answer those phones, but anyway, my point is why is she supposed to get preference when she has just as much experience with terrorist attacks as Mr. Obama. In other words, none at all. Could someone please tell me what her message is supposed to be, or does she truely believe that Americans are that naive to choose her over Obama because she promises to protect their children in a commercial. I don't understand her point.
I have a question for Ms. Clinton. Over here in Asia, though we do not receive any of the electorial campaign commercials, we do receive news of them, and anyone correct me if I'm wrong, but in the recent one with the sleeping child and Ms. Clinton asking who the public would want to answer the phone in the White House, well I think currently the trend shows that Mr. Obama is wanted to answer those phones, but anyway, my point is why is she supposed to get preference when she has just as much experience with terrorist attacks as Mr. Obama. In other words, none at all. Could someone please tell me what her message is supposed to be, or does she truely believe that Americans are that naive to choose her over Obama because she promises to protect their children in a commercial. I don't understand her point.
Hillary seems to think that she gained foreign policy experience by being first lady, and that Obama doesn't have that. Personally, I think thats bull. Im sure she did support the choices Bill made, and he did make good choices, but she didn't make those choices. That can't count for experience as she says.
Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914
March 4th, 2008 at 11:31am
See, I thought it didn't make much sense. That or there was something missing that I didn't know about.
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It did. Pretty interesting event really... I mean it's tragic and gruesome, but as far as wars go it's interesting.
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