Should Corporal punish be imposed?

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Kurtni Admin Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 34289	February 21st, 2007 at 06:09pm Anji: At the school I used to go to where the teachers hit the kids when they misbehave, none of the students ever feared the teachers. There was a very healthy teacher-student bond actually. Whatever, but don't we restrict our desires due to fear as well? I mean, if you wanted to steal a car, you know you wouldn't because you'd fear getting in trouble and having a record and being put away for a while? Isn't that how the world works anyways? Really? You can speak for every single person in your school, and know the emotions they felt? I'm not sure about you.. but I wouldn't steal the car because I know that it's wrong to take others things such as that, it isn't about fear it's about respect.
Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914	February 22nd, 2007 at 08:53am Kurtni: Anji: OK, I'm sorry I used to wrong word, but it isn't violence. Neither is it abuse. And maybe what applies to me doesn't apply to the world, but it sure as hell applies to quite a few people. Nobody is ever in the same situation as another person, but just the fact that people can relate should be enough for a topic like this. Just pretty much everyone on this thread has been smacked by their parents, and they think it wan't for good intentions, then why? I never said it was abusive. Hitting, I consider violent. I don't consider spanking kids abuse, but it's still violent. You're missing the point of everything I've said. Hitting someone for doing wrong is just silly. Resorting to physical means of teaching is so immature and silly compared to what we have the ability to do. Their intentions may have been good (I never said they weren't) but its just ridiculous that to communicate a message to a young child, they have to smack it. We are much more developed forms of life than that. Its basically ignorance if they think it's helping, they don't know any better. However, ignorance to other options is still no excuse for acting like that. It amazes me when you see parents screaming like little kids themselves in grocery stores at kids throwing fits, as if that helps at all. Parents are suppose to behave as the adult in the situation. Using physical punishment because you lack the ability to communicate in any other way is not being very adult like, regardless of if your intentions were good or not. I understand you think it's silly, but I'm not going to touch that just because I can't argue with what you consider it to be. I'm just saying that they do have good intentions to me and that it is the only way to make children understand sometimes. I can't use my own examples, but sometimes children don't listen. So what's the parent going to do, just keep repeating the same thing over and over again? Sometimes it doesn't work. The parents love their kids, they're doing anything for them. Hitting isn't an easy way out of verbal discipline at all. Again, I can't use examples of my own, but some families don't communicate using words. Some people are incapable of expressing their deepest ideas through words, sometimes words are not enough.
Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914	February 22nd, 2007 at 08:54am Kurtni: Really? You can speak for every single person in your school, and know the emotions they felt? Yes.
Maiku's Kind Ghost King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: - Posts: 2102	February 22nd, 2007 at 11:09am With the way most of the Freshmen act. I think they could use a good kick in the ass. One of them apparently wasn't paying attention and bumped into Doc- the oldest and by far the coolest teacher in my school, and yelled at him and called him names.
Kurtni Admin Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 34289	February 22nd, 2007 at 06:58pm Anji: I understand you think it's silly, but I'm not going to touch that just because I can't argue with what you consider it to be. I'm just saying that they do have good intentions to me and that it is the only way to make children understand sometimes. I can't use my own examples, but sometimes children don't listen. So what's the parent going to do, just keep repeating the same thing over and over again? Sometimes it doesn't work. The parents love their kids, they're doing anything for them. Hitting isn't an easy way out of verbal discipline at all. Again, I can't use examples of my own, but some families don't communicate using words. Some people are incapable of expressing their deepest ideas through words, sometimes words are not enough. So you're saying that they are so idiotic the only way they know how to communicate is through physical means? Humans have evolved far past that, it isn't that they can't, it's that they don't try. "This works, why should I try and find a better way" is basically their attitude. You're using the fact that they are ignorant to other ways as an excuse and it isn't. Ignorance is never an excuse. You're acting like if you don't hit your kids... the only other option is verbal direction, and that isn't so. Being spanked hurts for a few minutes, being grounded for awhile allows the message to seek in and let children see that there are consequences for their actions.
Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914	February 24th, 2007 at 09:45am Kurtni: Anji: I understand you think it's silly, but I'm not going to touch that just because I can't argue with what you consider it to be. I'm just saying that they do have good intentions to me and that it is the only way to make children understand sometimes. I can't use my own examples, but sometimes children don't listen. So what's the parent going to do, just keep repeating the same thing over and over again? Sometimes it doesn't work. The parents love their kids, they're doing anything for them. Hitting isn't an easy way out of verbal discipline at all. Again, I can't use examples of my own, but some families don't communicate using words. Some people are incapable of expressing their deepest ideas through words, sometimes words are not enough. So you're saying that they are so idiotic the only way they know how to communicate is through physical means? Humans have evolved far past that, it isn't that they can't, it's that they don't try. "This works, why should I try and find a better way" is basically their attitude. You're using the fact that they are ignorant to other ways as an excuse and it isn't. Ignorance is never an excuse. You're acting like if you don't hit your kids... the only other option is verbal direction, and that isn't so. Being spanked hurts for a few minutes, being grounded for awhile allows the message to seek in and let children see that there are consequences for their actions. My parents are not idiots. They were loving, caring, people who only wanted the best for me. Maybe there is a bit of a communication problem , so what is wrong with smacking? I'm sorry, but I find your post really personally offensive, and I hope that you didn't mean that.
Kurtni Admin Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 34289	February 24th, 2007 at 09:57am Anji: My parents are not idiots. They were loving, caring, people who only wanted the best for me. Maybe there is a bit of a communication problem , so what is wrong with smacking? I'm sorry, but I find your post really personally offensive, and I hope that you didn't mean that. Sorry if I offended you, but I do find it idiotic to communicate only through physical means. I didn't really mean they are idiots, more that parents who spank actions are idiotic, that was badly phrased. I don't think spanking is abuse or something, I just find it to be pointless and silly. Humans have grown and evolved enough to where we no longer need to resort to physical punishment. Just because they have a communication problem doesn't mean other ways don't exist, and I believe I've made it quite clear why I think smacking is disciplining in a wrongful way. I never said they werent loving or caring, in fact in some post I said they may have good intentions, but that still isn't going to change the fact that i think there are better ways to deal with children aside from hitting them.
Mycophobia Basket Case Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 15581	March 17th, 2007 at 09:54pm it just teaches kids that its ok for a adult to hit a kid, Adults should use words and exsplian to kids that what they did is wrong, hitting kids will just make the kids more angery.
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751	March 20th, 2007 at 06:42am Thunder 34: it just teaches kids that its ok for a adult to hit a kid, Adults should use words and exsplian to kids that what they did is wrong, hitting kids will just make the kids more angery. ok for example, what if your child keeps going up to the fire and trys to keep putting his/her fingers in the fire do you lighty tap the childs hand or do you elt them burn themselves?
Plug In Baby. Addict Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 11334	March 20th, 2007 at 06:48am Let them learn from their mistakes
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751	March 20th, 2007 at 06:52am Coff: Let them learn from their mistakes so then the child has a scar on his/her hand? I dont smack my kids and never will, but in certain postions you have to think, which is better!
PaNcAkEs Jackass Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 1808	March 20th, 2007 at 07:40am not allowed in our schools, as far as i know, and surely not in ours, i think such punishment should not be used in schools, in any schools for the matter. i agree to what kueibe said
PaNcAkEs Jackass Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 1808	March 20th, 2007 at 07:42am Lucifers Angel: Thunder 34: it just teaches kids that its ok for a adult to hit a kid, Adults should use words and exsplian to kids that what they did is wrong, hitting kids will just make the kids more angery. ok for example, what if your child keeps going up to the fire and trys to keep putting his/her fingers in the fire do you lighty tap the childs hand or do you elt them burn themselves? well both are good options, but if they burn their finger they will know that it hurts and wotn do it again. But if you wont let them they will stay curious andkeep trying. well..i was like that as a kid...
Kurtni Admin Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 34289	March 21st, 2007 at 05:47pm UltraViolet InfraRed: Lucifers Angel: Thunder 34: it just teaches kids that its ok for a adult to hit a kid, Adults should use words and exsplian to kids that what they did is wrong, hitting kids will just make the kids more angery. ok for example, what if your child keeps going up to the fire and trys to keep putting his/her fingers in the fire do you lighty tap the childs hand or do you elt them burn themselves? well both are good options, but if they burn their finger they will know that it hurts and wotn do it again. But if you wont let them they will stay curious andkeep trying. well..i was like that as a kid... Or, you could be a responsible parent and not keep your children where they could burn themselves O___o If your child is young enough to where they would still do something like that and you leave them alone with a fire, you're the one who should be slapped. However if you're in the room with them, verbal commands can instruct them to not do that. If verbal commands don't work, a time out is another option. It's like some people think if you don't hit your kids then you're ignoring them. That's not true.
davey jones. Falling In Love With The Board Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 7018	March 30th, 2007 at 11:02pm Texas still allows corporal punishment, but at my school there is no striking. They've pretty much stopped all of it. I remember getting struck in the third grade, but I think in the years following they've found alternative punishments like Alternative Schools and ISS. I don't understand why someone would hit a child for fighting with another student with a wooden board to teach them not to hit. Doesn't that completely defeat the purpose?

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