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newagecarny
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 | September 25th, 2007 at 09:20am Ol' Blue Eyes.:
I've rarely seen anyone being mocked because of what they have on.
Ditto. |
worn-out astronaut.
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 | September 25th, 2007 at 11:57am Cobra:Ol' Blue Eyes.:
I've rarely seen anyone being mocked because of what they have on.
Ditto. I have tbh. 
But if you don't have anyone mean enough to say it in your face (like one case I witnessed), people will probably trash your clothing style behind your back so you wont find about it anyway.
Really bullying is cause by unchangeable body features. |
Ol' Blue Eyes.
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| September 25th, 2007 at 12:54pm dancefloor murder.:Cobra:Ol' Blue Eyes.:
I've rarely seen anyone being mocked because of what they have on.
Ditto. I have tbh.
But if you don't have anyone mean enough to say it in your face (like one case I witnessed), people will probably trash your clothing style behind your back so you wont find about it anyway.
Really bullying is cause by unchangeable body features. Either that, or just because said person has one of those personalities that just piss off everyone in a five mile radius. Those are honestly the only two things I've ever seen someone mocked for. |
Remarkable Rocket
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Posts: 5761 | September 25th, 2007 at 06:11pm I punched a kid once for mocking my friend from across the room.... (I bring this up because you guys seem to be using the word "mock" a lot..). |
Remarkable Rocket
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Posts: 5761 | September 25th, 2007 at 06:14pm Can You Say OBSESSED:]
As I've already said, not really.
It would simply change appearance based insults.
I never once said we are only clothes.
I would really appreciate it if people stop putting words in my mouth.
Anyone who denies clothes are a strong form of personal expression better wear $3 clothes (tops) that don't match and never spend any time picking out clothes at a store or an outfit.
50 cent tuesdays at goodwill ftw... let me just say that. |
Macfadyen
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Posts: 16175 | September 26th, 2007 at 12:57am Can You Say OBSESSED:
I never once said we are only clothes.
I would really appreciate it if people stop putting words in my mouth.
Anyone who denies clothes are a strong form of personal expression better wear $3 clothes (tops) that don't match and never spend any time picking out clothes at a store or an outfit.
Clothes are a form of personal expression? Since when? All I see is kids the same popular clothes from the same stores. I guess that really reflects the consumer in us all.
I don't spend much time at all picking out clothes, and I've never worried about whether my clothes match. It doesn't make any sense to me, I have no reason to do it.
It's not what you wear, it's how you wear it. Your attitude is the only thing that expresses yourself, in my opinion.
Honestly, if I were forced to wear the same clothes as everyone else, I wouldn't feel any less an individual. I don't think standing out or looking different define me as a person..
I know a bunch of kids who went to private schools before coming to my high school, and the ones I've talked to have all said they didn't mind it at all. |
ColleenStarship
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Posts: 11991 | September 26th, 2007 at 01:20am Can You Say OBSESSED:
As I've already said, not really.
It would simply change appearance based insults.
I never once said we are only clothes.
I would really appreciate it if people stop putting words in my mouth.
Anyone who denies clothes are a strong form of personal expression better wear $3 clothes (tops) that don't match and never spend any time picking out clothes at a store or an outfit.
but then people might see you as poor or cheap and didn't at all take pride in their appereance.
as if some walked by in Aerocrombie i would assume they had money or atleast spent it too look some what fashionable. |
ColleenStarship
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Posts: 11991 | September 26th, 2007 at 01:22am Matt Bellamy:
Clothes are a form of personal expression? Since when? All I see is kids the same popular clothes from the same stores. I guess that really reflects the consumer in us all.
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thats reminds me.
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i don't like when people complain about people following trends and how that makes them less of an individual. People do like the clothes, i would still wear my skinny jeans and bands shirts regardless if they were fashion or not, following trends is their way of expressing themselves.
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Ol' Blue Eyes.
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Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 4816
| September 26th, 2007 at 02:59am Really, I think it's ridiculous to say that a uniform stifles your self-expression. Srsly. If a couple pieces of fabric can change your personality, you mustn't have had much of one to begin with. |
Macfadyen
Basket Case
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 16175 | September 26th, 2007 at 03:23am Can You Say OBSESSED:
Clothes have been a form of personal expression since at least the early '50s- in the United States, anyway.
You don't use clothes to express yourself?
You don't do your makeup a certain way or shop at certain stores and wear certain styles to express a part of yourself?
Because everybody I've ever met does.
"All I see is kids the same popular clothes from the same stores. I guess that really reflects the consumer in us all."
Why does it matter if more than one person likes the same style?
If two people want to wear skinny jeans and a My Chemical Romance shirt, why is that a negative thing?
"It's not what you wear, it's how you wear it."
It's both. For most teenagers, personal style is a great way to express yourself. Everybody who saw my shirt today knows how I feel about a certain controvery, even those who have never spoken to me and never will.
"Honestly, if I were forced to wear the same clothes as everyone else, I wouldn't feel any less an individual. I don't think standing out or looking different define me as a person.."
No, it doesn't, however, for every high schooler I know, clothes are a way to express yourself. People do their hair and their makeup a certain way for a reason, people wear certain clothes for a reason, certain shoes, certain jewelery, etc....,
You don't use clothes to express yourself?
You don't do your makeup a certain way or shop at certain stores and wear certain styles to express a part of yourself?
Because everybody I've ever met does.
No, I don't. I don't wear makeup, for one.
And no, I don't shop at certain stores, at all. I buy band shirts online (simply because i can't find anything else I like). And I will buy a pair of jeans from absolutely anywhere, as long as they fit and look alright.
Why does it matter if more than one person likes the same style?
If two people want to wear skinny jeans and a My Chemical Romance shirt, why is that a negative thing?
It's not. What i'm saying is, they're incredibly popular. I'm not saying that people only wear them because they're trendy, btw. But they're common, popular, found everywhere, and don't say much about the person. Wow, you like skinny jeans and MCR. I can see into your soul now. 
It's both. For most teenagers, personal style is a great way to express yourself. Everybody who saw my shirt today knows how I feel about a certain controvery, even those who have never spoken to me and never will.
Okay, that, I'll agree with. It can be a form of expression, but I know very few people who will wear tshirts with slogans or images that express their feelings towards a controversial issue. The majority of people wear plain clothes or shirts with skate-company brands. Here, anyway. I don't really see that as a form of expression, at all.
No, it doesn't, however, for every high schooler I know, clothes are a way to express yourself. People do their hair and their makeup a certain way for a reason, people wear certain clothes for a reason, certain shoes, certain jewelery, etc....,
Almost every high schooler I know dresses and looks the way they do to fit in.  |
Billie's Willie
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| September 26th, 2007 at 04:17am Can You Say OBSESSED:You don't use clothes to express yourself?
You don't do your makeup a certain way or shop at certain stores and wear certain styles to express a part of yourself?
Because everybody I've ever met does. Like Matt Bellamy, I don't wear makeup either. I haven't gotten a new piece of clothing in two and a half years, and when I got that shirt, it was because I won it. When you have the amount of money I have, you'll take whatever you can get, and you won't thow a bitch fit because it's "not your style". Honestly, not everyone uses clothes and makeup to express themselves. |
Macfadyen
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Gender: Female
Posts: 16175 | September 26th, 2007 at 05:00am I wear band shirts, and I don't consider it a form of self-expression, no. I consider it wearing shirts as not to walk around naked. I consider it support for bands I like.
In fact, that's basically what stereotyping is. I'm sick of people assuming what my personality is like based on what clothes I wear. |
Macfadyen
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Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 16175 | September 26th, 2007 at 06:05am I'm blessed to have been born into a family in an area where I can afford things that I like. Wearing clothes I like doesn't mean I'm "expressing" myself.
If it's self-expression to wear a tshirt of a band you like, is it self-expression to eat your favorite sandwich in a public place?
No, it's not. But I don't consider that self-expression, either. I consider that.. bonding through similar interests. o.o |
Micro Sheep
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Posts: 7584 | September 26th, 2007 at 08:46am ^You don't consider it self-expression,but maybe the ones who see you dressed in a band shirt think you want to express something/or to show people that you like that band.That's one of the reasons for wearing band shirts I suppose |
worn-out astronaut.
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| September 26th, 2007 at 08:59am Micro Sheep:^You don't consider it self-expression,but maybe the ones who see you dressed in a band shirt think you want to express something/or to show people that you like that band.That's one of the reasons for wearing band shirts I suppose Yeah. Thats why I wear them. |
Ol' Blue Eyes.
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| September 26th, 2007 at 12:46pm Can You Say OBSESSED:Ol' Blue Eyes.:Really, I think it's ridiculous to say that a uniform stifles your self-expression. Srsly. If a couple pieces of fabric can change your personality, you mustn't have had much of one to begin with.
Show me anywhere where I said it would change anybody's personality.
I use style as ONE form of my personal expression.
I find it completely unfair for a principal to take away something that means a lot to me and many other high school students.
I have never once said "not being able to wear what I like would change my personality," but it would take away one form of personal expression.
And taking away something I use to express myself DOES stifle my personal expression. It doesn't change my personality, but when I use something to express myself and somebody tells me I am not allowed to and must conform, how does that not take away that form of personal expression?
How much did you spend on your outfit? Does it match? I spend as much as I like on my outfit, and yes, it usually does match. But I've also worn a uniform five days a week, and it matched as well, and I spent a good deal less buying that than I have in other stores.
You're acting as if kids like me spent their whole formative years dressed in uniforms, when that's not the truth at all. Maybe eight hours five days a week, and when we got home, guess what we did? WE CHANGED. We put on clothes we'd picked out, jeans and t-shirts and whatever we'd cared to wear. We wore what we wanted when we went out on the weekend and at night during the week. Trust me, the uniforms come off. And all they did was make us look more professional, eliminate the need for constant trips to the mall for new things to wear, and remove one way for us to make fun of each other.
I don't really see why that's such a bad thing, and why you persist in saying it is.  |
Ol' Blue Eyes.
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| September 26th, 2007 at 12:48pm Billie's Willie:Can You Say OBSESSED:You don't use clothes to express yourself?
You don't do your makeup a certain way or shop at certain stores and wear certain styles to express a part of yourself?
Because everybody I've ever met does. Like Matt Bellamy, I don't wear makeup either. I haven't gotten a new piece of clothing in two and a half years, and when I got that shirt, it was because I won it. When you have the amount of money I have, you'll take whatever you can get, and you won't thow a bitch fit because it's "not your style". Honestly, not everyone uses clothes and makeup to express themselves. I agree with you. Lately, I buy clothes at the end of the season, when everything's on sale. The last thing I bought was a sweater because my old one ripped in half in the washer. I'm more than the clothes I wear, and I don't need them to make a statement. |
The Doctor
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| September 26th, 2007 at 05:41pm I think uniforms are okay because in my school, there are a million ways to wear it.
Besides, every non-uniform day just feels...weird. Everyone gets all hyped up and nobody feels like working.
Plus, it looks smart as hell. It makes the whole student body look smart, even if they are thick as two short planks.
Anyway, I wear...a variety of stuff.
Usually jeans, a loose top and a black shirt, unbuttoned. Sometimes I don't bother with the shirt. Sometimes I wear a band shirt. Sometimes I wear a green fluffy jumper I got out of an "old granny shop" (the PJs from there are also very comfortable)
I prefer being comfortable to being fashionable. |
Ol' Blue Eyes.
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| September 27th, 2007 at 05:35am Can You Say OBSESSED:I never believed or claimed the uniforms never came off.
People here seem to really enjoy putting words in my mouth.
So people still saw you in your regular clothes? Why would seeing somebody in a certain t-shirt over the weekend make them harrass somebody less then seeing them in it on a Monday? It wouldn't.
It. Removes. Nothing.
The insults on Monday go from:
"Ew! Did you see what ____ is wearing? Her family MUST be on welfare!"
to...
"Oh my God!! Have you seen _____? She looks SO fat in that skirt!!!"
And since you aren't forced to wear them every time you may interact with each other, the "Her family MUST be on welfare," is not eliminated.
Why should a fifteen year old have to look like a twenty-five year-old business woman in math class?
There's no need for it.
Hanging out with your friends and sitting in an English class does not call for looking like everybody else.  You're deliberately pretending to misunderstand me, and you've yet to acknowledge any points made by anyone other than yourself.
Essentially, studys have shown increased school spirit and professionalism where uniforms are concerned. It eliminates the cost of buying clothes from retail stores, and it also eliminates plenty of bullying that could go on.
Honestly, I went to a private school for nine years, and no one was ever mocked because of the uniform. I think you're the only one petty enough to think that way. |
