Serial Killers

I think serial killers are really interesting. It kinda fascinates me. [I don't admire it or anything.]

I did some research on the internet a while ago, for school, and reading it was really interesting..

I don't really have a favorite, but if I had to chose some it would be Jack the Ripper, The Blood Baron (sp) and Lord Voldemort.

Flaming Phalanges!:

Joan Greenwood:

mine is Myra Hindley.

Serial killers are just people. Humans die anyway. I don't really see the threat.

I see the threat that somebody's killed a series of people, and if they ever were released, chances are they might not have kicked the habit...

They were going to die anyway. Only now they are immortalised, sorta. It doesn't matter really in the grand scheme of things.

Joan Greenwood:

They were going to die anyway. Only now they are immortalised, sorta. It doesn't matter really in the grand scheme of things.

Doesn't matter?

Actually, in the grand scheme of things, nothing matters at all, does it?
rape, murder, child abuse, bombs, terrorism, wars, racism, prejucide.
It doesn't matter really in the grand scheme of things. I mean, you're right, its true.

Call me small minded, or whatever, but I actually think the small scheme of things is pretty important too though.

Bloodraine:

Joan Greenwood:

They were going to die anyway. Only now they are immortalised, sorta. It doesn't matter really in the grand scheme of things.

Doesn't matter?

Actually, in the grand scheme of things, nothing matters at all, does it?
rape, murder, child abuse, bombs, terrorism, wars, racism, prejucide.
It doesn't matter really in the grand scheme of things. I mean, you're right, its true.

Call me small minded, or whatever, but I actually think the small scheme of things is pretty important too though.

I suppose it depends on your outlook. I suppose that's why serial killers start. No-one really cares about just your average low key criminal or killer. Not really in the grand scheme of things (of course, it must matter to the families, small scheme of things), but when it is truley terrible, serial killers are remembered in the grand scheme of things like an inverse celebrity, not a star but a blackhole. Only with the extremes of murder and torture are people truley remembered infamously and the extremes of talent and money are people truly remembered famously. You're more likely to be remembered as a dude who killed a few dozen pensioners than a singer from an Ultra-Pop boyband.

Joan Greenwood:

Flaming Phalanges!:

Joan Greenwood:

mine is Myra Hindley.

Serial killers are just people. Humans die anyway. I don't really see the threat.

I see the threat that somebody's killed a series of people, and if they ever were released, chances are they might not have kicked the habit...

They were going to die anyway. Only now they are immortalised, sorta. It doesn't matter really in the grand scheme of things.

What so it's alright to take a child's life, or anybody's life, because they're going to die anyway, whether it be in 10 days, 10 weeks, 10 months or 10 years?

It's alright to keep them from experiencing the most amazing years of their lives, because we all end up in the ground anyway?

That's completely ridiculous, and I'm sure if a serial killer took a member of your family or one of your friends, you'd be devestated, and wouldn't brush it aside and say "well they were gonna die at some point".

Flaming Phalanges!:

Joan Greenwood:

Flaming Phalanges!:

Joan Greenwood:

mine is Myra Hindley.

Serial killers are just people. Humans die anyway. I don't really see the threat.

I see the threat that somebody's killed a series of people, and if they ever were released, chances are they might not have kicked the habit...

They were going to die anyway. Only now they are immortalised, sorta. It doesn't matter really in the grand scheme of things.

What so it's alright to take a child's life, or anybody's life, because they're going to die anyway, whether it be in 10 days, 10 weeks, 10 months or 10 years?

It's alright to keep them from experiencing the most amazing years of their lives, because we all end up in the ground anyway?

That's completely ridiculous, and I'm sure if a serial killer took a member of your family or one of your friends, you'd be devestated, and wouldn't brush it aside and say "well they were gonna die at some point".

I saw footage of Jeffrey Dhamer's trial, and if I had a video to post on here and show you the faces of the family members of the men he killed, I would. Those poor people were so upset.

Joan Greenwood:

Flaming Phalanges!:

Joan Greenwood:

mine is Myra Hindley.

Serial killers are just people. Humans die anyway. I don't really see the threat.

I see the threat that somebody's killed a series of people, and if they ever were released, chances are they might not have kicked the habit...

They were going to die anyway. Only now they are immortalised, sorta. It doesn't matter really in the grand scheme of things.

I don't really understand how you can take human life so lightly.

Releasing these people whose favorite hobby was to kill...

As I have been recently afflicted with the pain of loosing a life, I have to say that murder is no way to die. There is much for them to do before they pass and to rid them of it before they get a chance is cold-hearted.

Flaming Phalanges!:

Joan Greenwood:

Flaming Phalanges!:

Joan Greenwood:

mine is Myra Hindley.

Serial killers are just people. Humans die anyway. I don't really see the threat.

I see the threat that somebody's killed a series of people, and if they ever were released, chances are they might not have kicked the habit...

They were going to die anyway. Only now they are immortalised, sorta. It doesn't matter really in the grand scheme of things.

What so it's alright to take a child's life, or anybody's life, because they're going to die anyway, whether it be in 10 days, 10 weeks, 10 months or 10 years?

It's alright to keep them from experiencing the most amazing years of their lives, because we all end up in the ground anyway?

That's completely ridiculous, and I'm sure if a serial killer took a member of your family or one of your friends, you'd be devestated, and wouldn't brush it aside and say "well they were gonna die at some point".

I'd rather be killed by a serial killer than cancer. I know it sounds crazy, I know that, but that's just how I feel.

It already happened to my Grandfather (well, attempted), so I know what it feels like. They got away with it, scot free, but he was actually better off. His brain damage just made him forget that he was an alcoholic. He died in a more peaceful way than if he had just continued to drink at the rate he was.

Anyway, apart from him, I don't relate at all to my family. I feel like killing them myself sometimes.

I just think that humans are fairly expendable and that if we didn't have the spare few serial killers, rapists, thieves, idiots and hypocrites lying around we would have no idea what evil exactly was.

No evil = no good.

WeFoundTheDuck:

Joan Greenwood:

Flaming Phalanges!:

Joan Greenwood:

mine is Myra Hindley.

Serial killers are just people. Humans die anyway. I don't really see the threat.

I see the threat that somebody's killed a series of people, and if they ever were released, chances are they might not have kicked the habit...

They were going to die anyway. Only now they are immortalised, sorta. It doesn't matter really in the grand scheme of things.

I don't really understand how you can take human life so lightly.

Releasing these people whose favorite hobby was to kill...

Humans screwed up the planet. Quite single-handedly too. And besides, I don't like humans.

Anthony Burgess much?

Thing is, with something like cancer, you get warning, and you get to say things and do things before you die which you wouldn't ge to do if you were being raped/tortured/murdered/generally scared shitless by a serial killer.

You might not care about your family and friends, but I sure as hell care about mine, as do a lot of peole, and you just can't condone this because it balances things out.

Just because it might not change the world if somebody died, it will shatter many people's lives if someone they love was taken like this, and if everybody knew one person who'd been murdered, then we'd all be on the edge of topping ourselves.


I don't understand how you can be so heartless tbh.

Flaming Phalanges!:

Thing is, with something like cancer, you get warning, and you get to say things and do things before you die which you wouldn't ge to do if you were being raped/tortured/murdered/generally scared shitless by a serial killer.

You might not care about your family and friends, but I sure as hell care about mine, as do a lot of peole, and you just can't condone this because it balances things out.

Just because it might not change the world if somebody died, it will shatter many people's lives if someone they love was taken like this, and if everybody knew one person who'd been murdered, then we'd all be on the edge of topping ourselves.


I don't understand how you can be so heartless tbh.

"A gramme is better than a damn" (Haha, sorry)

I realise that I am in a major minority here, but I can't help it if I see the human race as a wholly destructive, preying mantis style race. I cannot fathom it. I have no faith in human nature and I believe that if you were promised that you wouldn't get slung in jail if you murdered anyone who made you feel sad, bullied you or even just laughed at your daffodil-yellow toilet seat then the human race would be gone by now. I just see that human=hypocrite.

If I was murdered today, say as an example, I'd be put through a great deal of pain (in some circumstances) before I died. My mother would be disrought, my family would grieve and the school people around me would be a still stunned (hopefully..) but if I commited suicide, they'd blame each other for making me do it, therefore causing more grief and anger.

Thing is though, if you were murdered then it's easy to blame the death on someone, but when you commit suicide, your friends and family feel like they should have done more, so there IS going to be more grief and anger, because they feel themselves as though they could have prevented it. I mean, you COULD prevent murder, but only if you had an escort at all times, and a back up escort and even one backing that escort up, because at the end of the day, you might be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Most people won't be murdered, but you don't know who will be so you can't prevent it.

I don't actually see what your point was with that aspect of it, but still.


Thing is though, if people are angry enough, they won't care about the prison sentence. Most people still have the basic idea of what's good and what's bad, providing they've been brought up properly, but I can guarantee that no matter how many people say "Argh I wanna kill so and so" 99.99999% of them could not bring themselves to pull the trigger, or whatever, because there's not many things that are worth killing someone for. A lot of people on this planet realise that it makes you just as bad as the person you kill if you kill them in revenge.

I think what people are most shocked with at your opinion is the fact that a lot of these people are most likely physically weak and probably haven't done much wrong, and saying that their lives don't matter, when they've probably led, on average, a pretty good life (as in sinless, if that's even a word) is just really quite horrible.

I dunno, I just don't think you can justify it at all, no matter if the human race is self destructive as a whole, because the people that get murdered are normally average people, as opposed to war criminals, or rapists, or muggers or whatever, and they don't deserve to have the last few minutes, hours or days of their lives in the hands of a serial killer. It's just not right.

Flaming Phalanges!:

Thing is though, if you were murdered then it's easy to blame the death on someone, but when you commit suicide, your friends and family feel like they should have done more, so there IS going to be more grief and anger, because they feel themselves as though they could have prevented it. I mean, you COULD prevent murder, but only if you had an escort at all times, and a back up escort and even one backing that escort up, because at the end of the day, you might be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Most people won't be murdered, but you don't know who will be so you can't prevent it.

I don't actually see what your point was with that aspect of it, but still.


Thing is though, if people are angry enough, they won't care about the prison sentence. Most people still have the basic idea of what's good and what's bad, providing they've been brought up properly, but I can guarantee that no matter how many people say "Argh I wanna kill so and so" 99.99999% of them could not bring themselves to pull the trigger, or whatever, because there's not many things that are worth killing someone for. A lot of people on this planet realise that it makes you just as bad as the person you kill if you kill them in revenge.

I think what people are most shocked with at your opinion is the fact that a lot of these people are most likely physically weak and probably haven't done much wrong, and saying that their lives don't matter, when they've probably led, on average, a pretty good life (as in sinless, if that's even a word) is just really quite horrible.

I dunno, I just don't think you can justify it at all, no matter if the human race is self destructive as a whole, because the people that get murdered are normally average people, as opposed to war criminals, or rapists, or muggers or whatever, and they don't deserve to have the last few minutes, hours or days of their lives in the hands of a serial killer. It's just not right.

I don't think it's right that you don't consider "sinful" people as human beings. I know that I am in a minority here, but I don't want to hide away my opinion.

That's not what I meant at all, what I'm saying is that serial killers and that prey on innocent types, because let's face it, if Jack the ripper went up to some geezer built like a brick shit house who's just got out of prison after a gbh conviction, it's gonna be a bit of a struggle.


No one deserves to have their life taken, I'm just saying that the people who do get murdered are mostly those who've rarely put a foot wrong and therefore it's horrendously unfair, whereas if a murderer was murdered, people'd think "well, serves him right".

D'you get what I mean?

Flaming Phalanges!:

That's not what I meant at all, what I'm saying is that serial killers and that prey on innocent types, because let's face it, if Jack the ripper went up to some geezer built like a brick shit house who's just got out of prison after a gbh conviction, it's gonna be a bit of a struggle.


No one deserves to have their life taken, I'm just saying that the people who do get murdered are mostly those who've rarely put a foot wrong and therefore it's horrendously unfair, whereas if a murderer was murdered, people'd think "well, serves him right".

D'you get what I mean?

I see what you mean but I don't think it's right at all. Thinking that it served them right. Often, I think people forget the whole "The cure is in the disease". If we studied, talked to these serial killers then we can understand their mindframe, but I feel that we must never take away the ability from anyone's mind. That's wrong. So very wrong.

I found it rather ironic that you chose ol' Jack Boy. All of the five women he/she/they murdered have all their base details on Wikipedia; leading back to the whole celebrity status that killer(s) has.

I want you to do something. Imagine a world without murder, without abuse, without "evil".

The planet would be dead.

Yeah, the world would be a dead place, but that's no reason to condone murder.

There's never any reason to condone murder.

The reason they get celebrity status is because people are naturally curious, and there's nothing wrong with that in my opinion, but even so, it's what happens.

And also, I find it strange that you refer to the murder victims as killers...

But the whole "serves them right thing" that's just a general mentality. Because who's going to have sympathy for some guy who's killed another person, it's a taste of their own medicine, eye for an eye, all that fo' shizz.

Only thing with that sort of mentality is that if everybody killed for revenge, then everybody would be dead, so you know, it's not going to work out.

Sorry for the jumble here, I'm just about to go out and I'm tyring to write a hurried response and it's not coming out too well.

Flaming Phalanges!:

Yeah, the world would be a dead place, but that's no reason to condone murder.

There's never any reason to condone murder.

The reason they get celebrity status is because people are naturally curious, and there's nothing wrong with that in my opinion, but even so, it's what happens.

And also, I find it strange that you refer to the murder victims as killers...

But the whole "serves them right thing" that's just a general mentality. Because who's going to have sympathy for some guy who's killed another person, it's a taste of their own medicine, eye for an eye, all that fo' shizz.

Only thing with that sort of mentality is that if everybody killed for revenge, then everybody would be dead, so you know, it's not going to work out.

Sorry for the jumble here, I'm just about to go out and I'm tyring to write a hurried response and it's not coming out too well.

I was refering to this mysterious Jack boy, not the victims. Sorry if it came across like that.

Ah right, well as long as we've got it clear that the ones whose throats WERE slit from ear to ear and had several organs removed were NOT the killers.

Joan Greenwood:

Flaming Phalanges!:

Joan Greenwood:

Flaming Phalanges!:

Joan Greenwood:

mine is Myra Hindley.

Serial killers are just people. Humans die anyway. I don't really see the threat.

I see the threat that somebody's killed a series of people, and if they ever were released, chances are they might not have kicked the habit...

They were going to die anyway. Only now they are immortalised, sorta. It doesn't matter really in the grand scheme of things.

What so it's alright to take a child's life, or anybody's life, because they're going to die anyway, whether it be in 10 days, 10 weeks, 10 months or 10 years?

It's alright to keep them from experiencing the most amazing years of their lives, because we all end up in the ground anyway?

That's completely ridiculous, and I'm sure if a serial killer took a member of your family or one of your friends, you'd be devestated, and wouldn't brush it aside and say "well they were gonna die at some point".

I'd rather be killed by a serial killer than cancer. I know it sounds crazy, I know that, but that's just how I feel.

It already happened to my Grandfather (well, attempted), so I know what it feels like. They got away with it, scot free, but he was actually better off. His brain damage just made him forget that he was an alcoholic. He died in a more peaceful way than if he had just continued to drink at the rate he was.

Anyway, apart from him, I don't relate at all to my family. I feel like killing them myself sometimes.

I just think that humans are fairly expendable and that if we didn't have the spare few serial killers, rapists, thieves, idiots and hypocrites lying around we would have no idea what evil exactly was.

No evil = no good.

Very ironically, and not to sound hoggish, but I have two friends, one of whom was murdered and another died from lukemia this year. The thing is, with my friend who had lukemia, I knew and she knew and all her other friends and family knew that there was nothing that anyone could have done about it. But with my other friend, I feel that I could've always had a hand in preventing it but I just couldn't and I know it's stupid, but I feel as if I could'e warned her or stopped it from happening but I know I couldn't with my other friend.