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Kurtni Admin Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 34289	February 26th, 2008 at 08:56pm The Last Firstborn.: I wonder why I never hear of Ron Paul on the television. :/ Because he fails
The Last Firstborn. Addict Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 12601	February 26th, 2008 at 08:59pm xD I suppose but I've been researching him on the internet he's actually has some interesting points. Note: When it comes to politics I'm not that interested, but he spoke of income taxes that we shouldn't even pay for it. He also swore that if he were president he'd have limited power. Sorry to many conspiracy clips. xD
fancy pants Post Whore Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 22225	February 26th, 2008 at 09:09pm The Last Firstborn.: Off topic: Has anyone here watched the documentary, zeitgeist? You posted a clip of that in the Awesome YouTube Videos thread, right? I watched the clip. That's all.
The Last Firstborn. Addict Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 12601	February 26th, 2008 at 09:12pm Yes, I think that was only a part of it, you might want to check it out on googlevideo. It's around 2 hours though. But it's quite entertaining, though there a few flaws.
Green_Day_nimrod. Jackass Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 1561	February 26th, 2008 at 10:05pm clinton wastes too much time pointing out Obama's faults..... Obama doesn't do that to her..... though i'm sure that he wants to
Addison Dewitt King For A Couple Of Days Age: 30 Gender: - Posts: 3746	February 26th, 2008 at 10:13pm Green_Day_nimrod.: clinton wastes too much time pointing out Obama's faults..... Obama doesn't do that to her..... though i'm sure that he wants to I know the whole health care thing. How long has that been going on? She ends up making herself look bad when she points out his faults, she kind of reminds me of a tattletale really, Ooooo! Look at what Obama said here! Look at it! Look at it!
Kurtni Admin Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 34289	February 26th, 2008 at 10:20pm Green_Day_nimrod.: clinton wastes too much time pointing out Obama's faults..... Obama doesn't do that to her..... though i'm sure that he wants to ... Well ah that's kind of how you win an election you know... point out why you're better for the job than the other candidates It scares me that you see this as a fault... what do you look for in a president?
Franny. Falling In Love With The Board Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 5246	February 27th, 2008 at 01:40am Kurtni: Green_Day_nimrod.: clinton wastes too much time pointing out Obama's faults..... Obama doesn't do that to her..... though i'm sure that he wants to ... Well ah that's kind of how you win an election you know... point out why you're better for the job than the other candidates It scares me that you see this as a fault... what do you look for in a president? Well I agree somewhat with Green_Day_nimrod. All politicians attack each other to get ahead, it's how the process works. But Clinton is in the position she is now [not a very good one] because she's been spending too much time slamming Obama [unsuccessfully] which makes her look like the bad person. She also has been 'mood-swingy'. One minute she's thanking Obama and saying it's an honor to be on stage with him, next minute she's yelling at him for saying allegedly false things about her, and then she apologizes and is nice again [as shown in tonight's debate...or just the bits I've seen]. Obama is doing well and is very consistent with his mood and comments. I think he truly respects Clinton and if relations with her aren't completely tarnished by the end of this, she could be the Vice for Obama. 20 debates!? Oh my, that's a crap load...What's changed? Nothing...really...nothing. April was the first one and today's could be the last one... I like the comment about Clinton getting field goals and not touchdowns. Keith [Olbermann] really misses his football, but it was a good sports metaphor. 3 points really isn't as good as a possible 7.
fancy pants Post Whore Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 22225	February 27th, 2008 at 02:17am Yeah. Clinton has been taking some really pathetic jabs at Obama. Whenever I see Obama talking about Clinton, it's about her policies and giving reasons why his are better. Which is good. But instead of defending her policies, Clinton has been making mountains out of mole hills. She keeps trying to make him seem like a horrible person who does horrible things. And just like Franny said, she's saying it's an honor to be running against him and debating with him. And then she goes and talks trash about him. If I were him, I wouldn't pick her to be vice.
Kurtni Admin Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 34289	February 27th, 2008 at 02:20pm Well, for me personally, pointing out someones faults and making pathetic jabs aren't the same things. When Hillary does things like challenge his positions on health care, that's good. She needs to do that. But when she says things like "Shame on your Barack Obama" that's just silly. I'm sure she is genuinly honored to be running against him in an election that has the potential to be so historical, but that doesn't mean she has to like/support him. wtf happened here why am I defending Hillary? OBAMA 4 LYF (or the next four years at least)
fancy pants Post Whore Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 22225	February 27th, 2008 at 04:25pm Kurtni: Well, for me personally, pointing out someones faults and making pathetic jabs aren't the same things. When Hillary does things like challenge his positions on health care, that's good. She needs to do that. But when she says things like "Shame on your Barack Obama" that's just silly. I'm sure she is genuinly honored to be running against him in an election that has the potential to be so historical, but that doesn't mean she has to like/support him. wtf happened here why am I defending Hillary? OBAMA 4 LYF (or the next four years at least) I know she doesn't have to like or support him. I just think if she's going to be talking about Obama, she should point out flaws in what his plans are. And explain why hers are better. Instead of making huge deals out of things that are really irrelevant. She keeps making herself look like a douche. But. That's good for me. Because Obama will get the nomination.
Kurtni Admin Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 34289	February 27th, 2008 at 04:47pm fancy pants: She keeps making herself look like a douche. Well, to be fair, she doesn't have to try very hard.
fancy pants Post Whore Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 22225	February 27th, 2008 at 07:23pm Kurtni: fancy pants: She keeps making herself look like a douche. Well, to be fair, she doesn't have to try very hard.
Addison Dewitt King For A Couple Of Days Age: 30 Gender: - Posts: 3746	February 27th, 2008 at 09:05pm fancy pants: Kurtni: fancy pants: She keeps making herself look like a douche. Well, to be fair, she doesn't have to try very hard. I think a lot of us took her as one to begin with, so of course she didn't have to try very hard, not bashing, just telling of what I observe.
Franny. Falling In Love With The Board Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 5246	February 27th, 2008 at 09:10pm Kurtni: Well, for me personally, pointing out someones faults and making pathetic jabs aren't the same things. When Hillary does things like challenge his positions on health care, that's good. She needs to do that. But when she says things like "Shame on your Barack Obama" that's just silly. I'm sure she is genuinly honored to be running against him in an election that has the potential to be so historical, but that doesn't mean she has to like/support him. wtf happened here why am I defending Hillary? OBAMA 4 LYF (or the next four years at least) It shows how desperate she has become by taking jabs and cheap shots instead of making legitimate critiques about his policies. Ahaha, I think it's because everyone is trash talking Clinton you want to defend her =P I do the same thing for Bush actually. It's difficult to defend him, but I have succeeded many times
Ol' Blue Eyes. King For A Couple Of Days Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 4816	February 27th, 2008 at 09:22pm Franny.: Kurtni: Well, for me personally, pointing out someones faults and making pathetic jabs aren't the same things. When Hillary does things like challenge his positions on health care, that's good. She needs to do that. But when she says things like "Shame on your Barack Obama" that's just silly. I'm sure she is genuinly honored to be running against him in an election that has the potential to be so historical, but that doesn't mean she has to like/support him. wtf happened here why am I defending Hillary? OBAMA 4 LYF (or the next four years at least) It shows how desperate she has become by taking jabs and cheap shots instead of making legitimate critiques about his policies. Ahaha, I think it's because everyone is trash talking Clinton you want to defend her =P I do the same thing for Bush actually. It's difficult to defend him, but I have succeeded many times I've been defending Bush a lot lately, I've noticed. I just feel bad for the poor man, going down in history as the president with the lowest approval rating and the worst record. [/offtopic]
Kurtni Admin Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 34289	February 27th, 2008 at 09:28pm Ol' Blue Eyes.: I've been defending Bush a lot lately, I've noticed. I just feel bad for the poor man, going down in history as the president with the lowest approval rating and the worst record. [/offtopic] It's his own fault
Franny. Falling In Love With The Board Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 5246	February 27th, 2008 at 09:44pm Kurtni: Ol' Blue Eyes.: I've been defending Bush a lot lately, I've noticed. I just feel bad for the poor man, going down in history as the president with the lowest approval rating and the worst record. [/offtopic] It's his own fault Not just his, it's his and those surrounding him. But because he's the president, he has] to take all blame. He'll have the lowest approval rating since they started to ask people for their approval ratings...and I don't know how long that's been, but from what I hear, not that long, a hundred or so years? Wartime presidents usually get a poor approval rating but they're still remembered [somewhat] by the good things they did. Take Harry Truman, he wasn't popular, but we still remember him today for being a good president right? What did he do? I've no idea
Kurtni Admin Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 34289	February 27th, 2008 at 09:54pm Franny.: Not just his, it's his and those surrounding him. But because he's the president, he has] to take all blame. He'll have the lowest approval rating since they started to ask people for their approval ratings...and I don't know how long that's been, but from what I hear, not that long, a hundred or so years? Wartime presidents usually get a poor approval rating but they're still remembered [somewhat] by the good things they did. Take Harry Truman, he wasn't popular, but we still remember him today for being a good president right? What did he do? I've no idea But the president is responsible for his approval rating. Other people around him also have low ratings, but he is supporting the same policies as they are, making his rating perfectly suitable. People don't like him, he should have thought of that before he made a bunch of choices that American's didn't want. I don't know what you mean by wartime presidents having low ratings... that's not true. Bill Clinton left office with a high approval rating and he was a wartime president, that's just recent history. He was able to maintain that in the height of economic crisis and political scandal. Roosevelt was a wartime president, he had one of the highest approval ratings in US history, Truman had a low approval rating during the war because Americans didn't like the way he was handling it, and can you blame them? He was keeping secrets and he deserved his low rating. But, you failed to mention how during the final stages of the war when they stopped hiding so much, his approval ratings went way up. In fact, he holds the record for biggest change in approval ratings.
Addison Dewitt King For A Couple Of Days Age: 30 Gender: - Posts: 3746	February 27th, 2008 at 10:40pm And I hate to interrupt this discussion, but you lost me, has anybody been watching the debates?

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