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Buddy Christ
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 | April 29th, 2007 at 01:44pm theories for the new book? What you think might happen, based or not based on the covers.
One that I hear alot is that Harry will sacrifice himself to save someone, killing Voldemort, because the thing he has that Voldemort doesn't is the power to love. I really don't like that one, but it's popular. |
worn-out astronaut.
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 | April 29th, 2007 at 01:48pm I don't want Harry to sacrifice himself. There are other ways to show love. |
rollerpig
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Posts: 62283 | April 29th, 2007 at 01:49pm  I was waiting for this thread!
...I beliveve that Harry will survive!  |
Buddy Christ
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| April 29th, 2007 at 01:50pm I think that the life-debt between wormtail and Harry will show up too. It seemed important in the 3rd when Dumbledore talked about it. |
Meski
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| April 29th, 2007 at 01:50pm My theory is the Snape theory, he is good.
When Snape made the Unbreakable Vow with Narcissa Malfoy, one of her questions were:
"If Draco fails, will you continue his mission?"
Meaning that if he didn't kill Dumbledore, Snape would have to kill him. At that moment his hand twitched.
Later in the book, when Ron is in the Hospital Wing, Hagrid takes Harry and Hermione with them and tells them something about Dumbledore and Snape discussing loudly in the Forest.
I think that Snape was arguing to Dumbledore that he didn't want to kill him, but we all know that Dumbledore has a very big heart and he denied it, he didn't want Snape killed.
Later, right before Snape kills Dumbledor in the tower, Dumbledore pleads to Severus
"Severus Please"
That might mean that he wanted Snape to kill him although he knew that he didn't want.
Well, thoughts? |
worn-out astronaut.
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| April 29th, 2007 at 01:54pm Meski:My theory is the Snape theory, he is good.
When Snape made the Unbreakable Vow with Narcissa Malfoy, one of her questions were:
"If Draco fails, will you continue his mission?"
Meaning that if he didn't kill Dumbledore, Snape would have to kill him. At that moment his hand twitched.
Later in the book, when Ron is in the Hospital Wing, Hagrid takes Harry and Hermione with them and tells them something about Dumbledore and Snape discussing loudly in the Forest.
I think that Snape was arguing to Dumbledore that he didn't want to kill him, but we all know that Dumbledore has a very big heart and he denied it, he didn't want Snape killed.
Later, right before Snape kills Dumbledor in the tower, Dumbledore pleads to Severus
"Severus Please"
That might mean that he wanted Snape to kill him although he knew that he didn't want.
Well, thoughts? I like your idea. |
rollerpig
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Posts: 62283 | April 29th, 2007 at 01:56pm Lars:I think that the life-debt between wormtail and Harry will show up too. It seemed important in the 3rd when Dumbledore talked about it. Definately! I think so too  |
rollerpig
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Posts: 62283 | April 29th, 2007 at 01:57pm Meski:
Well, thoughts?
I love your theory, but I don't think it's true. 
But yeah I thought about Snape being good in the end..  |
Buddy Christ
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| April 29th, 2007 at 01:58pm He did try to save Harry in the first movie. |
Misanthropist
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Posts: 23279 | April 29th, 2007 at 02:01pm HOP TEH HOPPUS.: I was waiting for this thread!
...I beliveve that Harry will survive!
yes, me too, tbh.
I don't believe the Harry is a Horcrux theory. |
Misanthropist
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Posts: 23279 | April 29th, 2007 at 02:02pm Lars:I think that the life-debt between wormtail and Harry will show up too. It seemed important in the 3rd when Dumbledore talked about it.
Oh, def. Also, there is supposed to be a thing about Harry's eyes, right? |
Buddy Christ
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| April 29th, 2007 at 02:03pm How he has his mothers eyes is supposed to be of importance |
rollerpig
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Posts: 62283 | April 29th, 2007 at 02:11pm Omg and Malfoy was all not sure about killing Dumbledore in the end.  ... there will follow something!  |
Buddy Christ
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| April 29th, 2007 at 02:12pm He's proabably being punished for it. It would be cool if he came over to the good side though |
Misanthropist
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Posts: 23279 | April 29th, 2007 at 02:13pm HOP TEH HOPPUS.:Omg and Malfoy was all not sure about killing Dumbledore in the end. ... there will follow something!
I kind of liked Malfoy after the sixth book.
he's such a perfectly flawed person |
worn-out astronaut.
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| April 29th, 2007 at 03:16pm I think Draco should get punished by Voldie or something. I really dislike him, he is my least favorite character |
rollerpig
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Meski
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| April 29th, 2007 at 03:20pm Dr. Cuddy:I think Draco should get punished by Voldie or something. I really dislike him, he is my least favorite character Of course he's getting punished, he said that if he didn't kill Dumbledore, Voldie would kill him. |
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Posts: 3243 | April 29th, 2007 at 04:19pm I agree with the Snape being good theory. To me, it seems the most likely. |
Misanthropist
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Posts: 23279 | April 29th, 2007 at 06:43pm Misanthropist:But wait, for the theory that Harry is horcrux, when would Voldie have made him a horcrux? because, Harry couldn't have been one since he was a baby. I mean, Voldemort couldn't even touch harry let alone put a piece of his soul in him. Also, in the order of the pheonix, Voldemort can't possess Harry for very long, it's painful, so how could part of his soul be within Harry?
Horcrux's are difficult magic and the spell has to be intentional to occur, no? So, That shoots down any "accidental" incidents where Voldemort makes Harry a horcrux.
I don't think J.K would go that route, to be honest. I'm not saying Harry won't die, I'm just saying that I don't think the Harry as a Horcrux thing works.
idk.
^ Basically why I disagree with the Harry Horcrux theory.
EDIT: these people explained it a bit better than me:
facebook:Harry is not a horcrux, and neither is his scar.
There is no way Voldy would have made Harry into a horcrux intentionally because he just wanted him to die to make the prophecy impossible.
An accidental horcrux being created does not make sense. Yes, strange things happened that night, but not accidental spells. Harry didn't die when he was hit with the AK curse because Lily died for him when she could have been spared. Her choice gave him that protection.
To say a horcrux could have been created accidentally is like saying the locked door just flew open (Alohamora wasn't said, but the door opened randomly "just because"  or the table turned into a tiger (the charm happened accidentally) or the glass on the counter filled with water (because some random spell that no one said or intended "just happened" because strange things happened that night. These are not complicated spells, and the horcrux spell IS complicated. They are all intentional and don't just happen randomly - just like the horcrux spell.
Harry's scar was not a scar in the beginning, it was a cut that turned into a scar when it healed. It was not a thing that was pasted on his forhead, which is what it sounds like people think when they talk about how it is a horcrux but Harry isn't.
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facebook:I don't understand the concept of Harry or his scar being a living Horcrux. Sure Voldemort gave him some powers but those powers so far have been insight into his mind and speaking Parseltongue...also Harry is proving to be a great wizard as was Voldemort. Harry's amazing prowess for Defense Against the Dark Arts parallels Voldemort's powers for using the Dark Arts. I think the other similarities are just coincidence, appearance wise, and also a 'certain disregard for the rules'.
Anyway, to my point, I don't think Harry OR his scar is a Horcrux. The books say that neither one can live while the other survives...If Harry sacrifices himself to 'save' the wizarding world...the last piece of the Horcrux would still exist inside Voldemort...unless of course Harry kills him first, then kills himself. But even then, if the last piece of the Horcrux is in Harry, it wouldn't make any difference because it hasn't affected him so far. The Horcrux can't just take over Harry and become Voldemort...so really him being a Horcrux doesn't make sense, at least in my opinion.
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