Nine_Inch_Nails Falling In Love With The Board Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 8334
April 20th, 2006 at 06:42pm
Tyler:
Minority_Under_Dog:
But (as it was stated before) what if your raped, especailly if your young. Is it right to have a child that you can't take care of cause some bastard descided he needed to have sex? And people say there's adoption but i wouldn't want to put a child of mine in some shitty old orphanage.
Well....
Put a child up for adoption....
or
Kill them.
just my opinion
I'd rather be aborted than be put into care.
Just my opinion. No offence to anyone here. What's right for me, isn't alwyas what's right for another person.
Yeah, in China most women expecting girls get abortions because they don't want them.
Minority_Under_Dog Falling In Love With The Board Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 6967
April 20th, 2006 at 07:25pm
Apocalypse:
Yeah, in China most women expecting girls get abortions because they don't want them.
yeah we learned that in sex ed *is happy cause she rememered something from school even if it was from sex ed, the best class*
chinas population is HUGE and boys are still considered stronger so girls sometimes just get killed if they're born or go to a horrible orphanage. better to abort them then make them suffer in life.
for all we know death is great, no one knows.
Plug In Baby. Addict Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 11334
April 20th, 2006 at 10:51pm
Minority_Under_Dog:
Also in China there's a major overpopulation and people are encouraged to get abortions because of it (or at least thats what i heard, i could be wrong)
I think abortion is a very tricky subject to deal with. It depends on ones moral beliefes (sp?) and weather or not the mother is at risk by carrying the baby to full term. But the baby should, by all accounts aborted during the first trimester of pregnancy.
The situation in China is that they still believe that males are better as childeren, and will be better for the family. They still see girls as workers, as mere housewives, so they would usually abort them (if they can afford it) or put them up for adoption. But in some parts of China (some of the more 'underdeveloped' areas) once the female child is born, they drown them in a bucket, like puppys or kittens.
And as Coff stated, they are forced to terminate the pregnancy, and usually by the time they know the sex of the child, it is well into the second trimester. By that time the baby is almost fully developed, with limbs, internal organs and, realisticly, if it were born then and there, it could still live.
Also, if the child was concived by accident (ie. rape) then it would probably be best to terminate the child, because there would be a fair chance that the mother would not be prepared to support a baby. They may not even be able to support themselves.
Alot of the time orphanages are under funded, under stocked for supplies and teaching equiptment, yet over populated as it were.
As I stated, and as it has probably been stated befor me, it all depends.
Plug In Baby. Addict Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 11334
April 21st, 2006 at 05:07am
Yeah, I remember reading a book about this woman in China, I cant remember the name of it, but they had to get passes to have a baby and stuff, and whoever have them out were only allowed to give out a certain amount per year. Also, you couldn't give them away, once you got it, you were stuck with it. If you didn't use it after a year, it was no longer valid.
Nine_Inch_Nails Falling In Love With The Board Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 8334
April 21st, 2006 at 06:07am
All the people who say that females who get raped should have the kid anyway and put it up for adoption..well...what if that female was 9 years old or something?
Matt Smith Admin Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 31134
April 21st, 2006 at 06:22am
Apocalypse:
I think it's too bad that women getting an abortion are stereotyped like you guys do... I'm kinda shocked with the negativity of this thread too, because I am Canadian and over here we are a really liberate country so no one complains about abortion. Anyway, you all seem to think that when you have an abortion, it's because you are a stupid slut who sleeps everywhere with anyone without protection. Hello, these women are real. They can get abortion because of financial,health or familial problems. You aren't in their position. You don't know how they feel, how that affect their lives, how the choice is hard to make. It's way easier to say they are all murderers.
You know, I bit the head right off the last person who came wandering into a thread and branded us all with the same brush. But you're new so I won't. But less of the 'you' eh?.
Hm. They pretty much are all murderers. Not going to argue on that. But I can go with that. I'm a big believer in exceptions, and there are many specific circumstances where I think murdering that foetus/baby is acceptable.
Like Alex said; if the person is raped, or the person is young (very young).
If the person is in danger; if the person is vulnerable in some way. Here i'm talking about risks to health, both mental and physical.
If the child would be born severely disabled.
There are more, I think. You have to really consider every individual by itself.
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
April 21st, 2006 at 07:14am
Apocalypse:
Yeah, in China most women expecting girls get abortions because they don't want them.
yeah they just dump them at the side of a road and let people walk past her what a fucking place to live where they will dump baby girls so awfully. i would rather be put up for adoption than be aborted, i would rather live a life where i can get out of when i am older than dead.
Nerdosaurus Falling In Love With The Board Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 5559
April 21st, 2006 at 08:58am
I dont get abortion I mean if there was something wrong with the child like it had some disease the mother should be able to make a choice if she want's to deal with the child or not.
On the other hand there is so many couple's who want children and find out after year's of trying they cant have their own children. And that's why I think abortion is good and bad in some case's but it shouldent be used just to say "Oh shit im pregant oh I think ill have an abortion that will be ok." That's not the right way to go about it.
If you dont get any of that then i'm sorry.
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
April 21st, 2006 at 09:35am
Panic! In My Pocket:
I dont get abortion I mean if there was something wrong with the child like it had some disease the mother should be able to make a choice if she want's to deal with the child or not.
On the other hand there is so many couple's who want children and find out after year's of trying they cant have their own children. And that's why I think abortion is good and bad in some case's but it shouldent be used just to say "Oh shit im pregant oh I think ill have an abortion that will be ok." That's not the right way to go about it.
If you dont get any of that then i'm sorry.
i did understand all that, yes you are right it is the mums choice to have a child that she has been advised to abort, because i know from personal expierences that dr's can be wrong, i was told that my child will never be able to walk and look after himself, and now he is down the park running around and dressing himself, all that is wrong with him is ADHD.
Miley Cyrus Basket Case Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 15185
May 26th, 2006 at 04:02pm
I'm for abortion. It's the mother's right to choose.
Most likely, the mother couldn't afford or take care of the child.
I'm for abortion. It's the mother's right to choose. Most likely, the mother couldn't afford or take care of the child.
Well maybe the mother needs to consider that before she gets herself knocked up. And that is not most likely, most likely she didn't want to accept responsability for her actions. Everytime you have sex you need to realize you could produce a kid. Just because you're to immature to care for it doesnt mean it needs to be murdered.
Miley Cyrus Basket Case Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 15185
May 26th, 2006 at 04:16pm
MikeLvr:
Faith:
Okay, I admit I haven't read all the 17 pages of this, but I read the 1st page and everyone seemed to be against. But I don't know, I'll just express my opinion and leave. All this has probably been said many times before in the pages that I didn't read.
I am completely and totally for abortion. First off, it saves women, because in many cases abortion is not what the woman decided because she doesn't want the kid - it's what needs to be done to save her life. If abortion becomes illegal, many women will die for nothing. If you're saying abortion kills the child - in case of a medical condition, inability to perform abortion will kill both the kid and the mother. I don't think that's humane, or even makes any sense.
In case abortion is simply a torn condom, slipped diaphragm or some other kind of fucked up mistake...you're saying if the woman made a mistake of getting pregnant, then she should deal with it...Well, I think it's absolutely rediculous that people scream about the horrors or abortion, while that would just create more children that parents will leave. It seems anti-abortion people want to create more poor and hungry instead of taking this enegry they have and take care of the poor and hungry we already have. Once again, I see no sense in that.
I don't believe in religion, therefore religios arguments will only arouse a "whatever" reaction. As for killing someone genius before they were even born - that's bullshit. If this genius was meant to be born, they will be born against all odds. God knows what They're doing.
If my mother didn't have an abortion with her first conception, than I wouldn't exist. Which, some might think, would be a good thing. But, oh well.
If you're just saying abortion is immoral, I don't find that proof of anything. If abortion ever becomes illigal that will be the stupidest thing; but either way we will all stick to our opinions.
Your speech is what I exactly wanted to say.
Me too.
Babi Kid Rachy King For A Couple Of Days Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 4512
May 26th, 2006 at 06:52pm
Not ever woman is ready for a baby...it looks hard work. Even though i'm young...i still undertstand.
Not ever woman is ready for a baby...it looks hard work. Even though i'm young...i still undertstand.
When you have sex, you know there is a chance you could have a kid, if you can't handle that don't have sex. It isnt the childs fault you're irresponsiable, why should it be aborted?
Not ever woman is ready for a baby...it looks hard work. Even though i'm young...i still undertstand.
When you have sex, you know there is a chance you could have a kid, if you can't handle that don't have sex. It isnt the childs fault you're irresponsiable, why should it be aborted?
Even if you are responsible and use protection, you still can get pregnant.
Not ever woman is ready for a baby...it looks hard work. Even though i'm young...i still undertstand.
When you have sex, you know there is a chance you could have a kid, if you can't handle that don't have sex. It isnt the childs fault you're irresponsiable, why should it be aborted?
Even if you are responsible and use protection, you still can get pregnant.
Ok, as I said, whenever you have sex, there is a chance you could get pregnant, reguardless of protection. If you can't handle kids, don't have sex.
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
May 27th, 2006 at 04:11am
Rachel<3 Fall Out Boy:
Not ever woman is ready for a baby...it looks hard work. Even though i'm young...i still undertstand.
i was ready to have my first child and i never even considered killing the baby
Miley Cyrus Basket Case Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 15185
May 27th, 2006 at 03:58pm
I_worship_tre_Cool:
sheepless and redundant:
I'm for abortion. It's the mother's right to choose. Most likely, the mother couldn't afford or take care of the child.
Well maybe the mother needs to consider that before she gets herself knocked up. And that is not most likely, most likely she didn't want to accept responsability for her actions. Everytime you have sex you need to realize you could produce a kid. Just because you're to immature to care for it doesnt mean it needs to be murdered.
At first, the fetus can't think or feel pain. If it's older than four months, then I'm against it. But before that, no.
