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July 13th, 2006 at 12:18pm
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anti. Even though it doesn't abide by the constitution I think we should test on murderers or people charged of rape.
See, I think they (the UN) were on to something when they wrote the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and said you can't do stuff like that to people, criminal or no. Humans are humans. Cosmetic testing on animals is foolish and wrong, but there are dozens of good things that come of medical testing on animals.
I really can't understand this--the connection between humans and other humans is one of the strongest bonds any human can ever experience, yet so often I see people putting the life of an animal over a human life.

People and animals can have strong bonds too. Would I put my cats before another person? Most likely not? Before me, depending ont he situation, I might.
I agree with that, and it is hard not to see animals as human sometimes (like when my dog hides in my lap during thunderstorms, like a child). But to reject animal testing altogether is absurd. It can save animal and human lives. To place human testing over it as a better alternative, whether said humans are criminal or not...that's insane. No other animal would do that to their own kind...
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July 13th, 2006 at 12:33pm
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anti. Even though it doesn't abide by the constitution I think we should test on murderers or people charged of rape.
See, I think they (the UN) were on to something when they wrote the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and said you can't do stuff like that to people, criminal or no. Humans are humans. Cosmetic testing on animals is foolish and wrong, but there are dozens of good things that come of medical testing on animals.
I really can't understand this--the connection between humans and other humans is one of the strongest bonds any human can ever experience, yet so often I see people putting the life of an animal over a human life.

People and animals can have strong bonds too. Would I put my cats before another person? Most likely not? Before me, depending ont he situation, I might.
I agree with that, and it is hard not to see animals as human sometimes (like when my dog hides in my lap during thunderstorms, like a child). But to reject animal testing altogether is absurd. It can save animal and human lives. To place human testing over it as a better alternative, whether said humans are criminal or not...that's insane. No other animal would do that to their own kind...

I agree, Sadly animal testing is the only option we have for medical Science right now, maybe in the future we wont need it, but as of now we do. It isnt fair to them, but people come first. How could people help animals if we all die of disease?
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July 17th, 2006 at 06:57am
I have looked at both sides of the story and I believe that animal testing for medical reasons is a good thing. I know that most if not all of mthe scientists involved take utmost care to ensure that the animals are well looked after. We could find cures for cancer, AIDS etc in the next few decades if we continue. Sadly, groups like SPEAK and the ALF insist on terrorising scientists and their families.

www.pro-test.org.uk/ is an awesome site, go there! Laurie Pycroft is a hero.
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July 17th, 2006 at 05:04pm
Well, it's wrong. I think they should find a way to accurately test products using computers and technology. Don't waste a living thing's life, for Man's own greedy reasons.
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July 17th, 2006 at 05:06pm
Well, it's wrong. I think they should find a way to accurately test products using computers and technology. Don't waste a living thing's life, for Man's own greedy reasons.
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July 17th, 2006 at 05:08pm
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Well, it's wrong. I think they should find a way to accurately test products using computers and technology. Don't waste a living thing's life, for Man's own greedy reasons.

Right, because a computer is the same as a living creature.
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July 18th, 2006 at 02:44pm
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Well, it's wrong. I think they should find a way to accurately test products using computers and technology. Don't waste a living thing's life, for Man's own greedy reasons.

Right, because a computer is the same as a living creature.
I never said it was.
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July 18th, 2006 at 02:45pm
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Well, it's wrong. I think they should find a way to accurately test products using computers and technology. Don't waste a living thing's life, for Man's own greedy reasons.

Right, because a computer is the same as a living creature.
I never said it was.
I just think that if they found a technological way to test products WITHOUT hurting a creature, that would be great.
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July 18th, 2006 at 02:50pm
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Well, it's wrong. I think they should find a way to accurately test products using computers and technology. Don't waste a living thing's life, for Man's own greedy reasons.

Right, because a computer is the same as a living creature.
I never said it was.
I just think that if they found a technological way to test products WITHOUT hurting a creature, that would be great.

it would be great, but as of now we can't.
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July 18th, 2006 at 05:53pm
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Well, it's wrong. I think they should find a way to accurately test products using computers and technology. Don't waste a living thing's life, for Man's own greedy reasons.

Right, because a computer is the same as a living creature.
I never said it was.
I just think that if they found a technological way to test products WITHOUT hurting a creature, that would be great.

it would be great, but as of now we can't.


many people would be dead now if they didnt test on animals me included,
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July 19th, 2006 at 09:35am
animal testing is a cruel thing right?
but isn't killing animals even worse?
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July 19th, 2006 at 09:55am
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animal testing is a cruel thing right?
but isn't killing animals even worse?

Alot of animal testing does result in killing animals, or deforming them.
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July 21st, 2006 at 07:25am
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anti. Even though it doesn't abide by the constitution I think we should test on murderers or people charged of rape.
See, I think they (the UN) were on to something when they wrote the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and said you can't do stuff like that to people, criminal or no. Humans are humans. Cosmetic testing on animals is foolish and wrong, but there are dozens of good things that come of medical testing on animals.
I really can't understand this--the connection between humans and other humans is one of the strongest bonds any human can ever experience, yet so often I see people putting the life of an animal over a human life.

People and animals can have strong bonds too. Would I put my cats before another person? Most likely not? Before me, depending ont he situation, I might.
I agree with that, and it is hard not to see animals as human sometimes (like when my dog hides in my lap during thunderstorms, like a child). But to reject animal testing altogether is absurd. It can save animal and human lives. To place human testing over it as a better alternative, whether said humans are criminal or not...that's insane. No other animal would do that to their own kind...

I agree, Sadly animal testing is the only option we have for medical Science right now, maybe in the future we wont need it, but as of now we do. It isnt fair to them, but people come first. How could people help animals if we all die of disease?

its not the only option, there are other methods that are actually more reliable. besides, a lot of drugs, like penicillin, wouldnt have been used if tested on animals, coz its toxic to them
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July 21st, 2006 at 11:00am
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its not the only option, there are other methods that are actually more reliable. besides, a lot of drugs, like penicillin, wouldnt have been used if tested on animals, coz its toxic to them


Are you going to talk about these other methods or just say they exist. Sources? Proof? Be specific.

And Actually, my cat just took penicillin for her Mansitis infection. Every species of animal is not allergic penicillin, animal testing is the best thing we have right now, rather you're going to admitt it or not.
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January 2nd, 2007 at 05:12pm
Why should an animal suffer and die for a beauty product
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January 2nd, 2007 at 07:23pm
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Why should an animal suffer and die for a beauty product

Why should a human suffer and die because we have no cure to cancer? They shouldn't. Animal testing is a valuable tool in finding the cure to cancer and other disorders. Its more than just testing out lipstick.
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January 3rd, 2007 at 12:29pm
I don't trust animal testing.

I mean, okay it saves lives yadda yadda yadda but it's like...I dunno...how do you know that one species is gonna react in the same way as another? Not every medicine and not every chemical will react the same way with mice as humans.

I'd rather tempt prisoners with it so they could get more luxuries. File but that'd be against Human Rights or something.
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January 3rd, 2007 at 12:47pm
I don't like animal testing. At all.

But, I was just wondering, what test animal products if animal testing is not allowed.

So I guess for products specifically for animals, it's OK.
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January 3rd, 2007 at 02:21pm
What if the effects on humans aren't the same as effects on the animals the products were tested on??
Actually I don't think that there were any mistakes but it could happen...
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January 7th, 2007 at 02:47pm
The people that test products on animals should burn in hell!!!!
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