Religion and violence
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| NeoSteph Basket Case  Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 16494   | zdf_jammin: apparently when your dreaming of being a wizard yes. In the bible it says not to 'practise witchcraft' it never says anything about reading something magically based. I can't stand people who think J k rowling is a sinner. dreams are the gateway to the soul, i had a dream about a flying mongoose last night i wonder if that means i'm going to hell. |
| Mike's Demonic Daunter Falling In Love With The Board  Age: - Gender: - Posts: 5493 | i dont really believe in religion. i mean, i respect peoples beliefs and all, but i dont believ in that kind of stuff |
| zdf_jammin Geek Age: - Gender: - Posts: 432 | flying mongoose, thats awesome! yea, pope benedict doesnt sound too cool, but i dont think people can go off calling him nazi |
| zdf_jammin Geek Age: - Gender: - Posts: 432 | hey, i found this using a stumble upon feature on firefox, its rather inspiring http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/highband.htm |
| spill_no_sick Falling In Love With The Board Age: 30 Gender: - Posts: 8588 | NeoSteph:I'm not saying we should all be the same, or the same religion, I'm just saying that the conflict isn't one religion, it's that we all follow a different one |
| ShroomQueen Geek Age: - Gender: - Posts: 493 | God Gave us all freedom of choice as to wether we follow the things that hes told us or not. So its mankinds choice and therefore its mankinds fault that the world is such a crap place. In the bible it condemns war and says we should be peacable towards all men, and if we all followd just a few of the principles that were found in the bible then i think the world would be a better place. EG if everyone did to everyone what they want done to them, then in reality there wud be no murder, theft, war or anything. I mean who wants any of these things to happen to them? But thats just my point of view. |
| zdf_jammin Geek Age: - Gender: - Posts: 432 | ShroomQueen: exactly, like i said before, ideal world. but theirs always some idiot who thinks he/she is special enough not to follow those rules, wants to be a rebel or punk, or w/e, and feel that they can kill someone, punch someone, call someone a name, w/e, because they feel llike it. temptations from the devil-the feeling of revenge, porn, etc. |
| NeoSteph Basket Case Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 16494 | zdf_jammin: when he was 12 he was FORCED to join the Hitler Youth, but when he reach 18 he decided against joining the Nazi party and ran away, risking his own life for his beliefs, i can respect him for that. |
| zdf_jammin Geek Age: - Gender: - Posts: 432 | exactly, a lot of kids were forced into the hitler youth, trust me, i know all about it. my history teacher was nutso about teaching us every little fact about the nazis and holocaust, so bring it on. well, it really bothered me, because then everyone started calling me a nazi.... |
| Kitti Falling In Love With The Board Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 5688 | okay, its time to stop bashing people who arent christian because they arent christian. im not, im not rebelling, im becoming myself, and there are so many parts of christianity that i cannot agree with that to be christian is to majorly compromise who i am. and i cant do that. many wars have been fought over religion, thats fact. its not anybody creating a scapegoat, its FACT. wars like the crusades in the eleventh century. yeah, that was over fucking religion. and it turns out, they were wrong. about their own faith. Faith is supposedly about following blindly. definitivly, at least. but you know what? i dont think it is. you still have to question whats right. nobody has the right to say that in an ideal world the religion would be __________. nobodys gonna agree on what the perfect religion would be. and they shouldnt have to. people just need to learn to be tolerant. |
| zdf_jammin Geek Age: - Gender: - Posts: 432 | paradoxical: ok, we ahvent really been bashing them? and if your talking about my ideal world, and how IM NOT tolerant, your totally wrong. i would never expect people to change their ways for my own ideal world, im not that self absorbed, and i ahve no problem with muslims, buddhists, w/e. and plus, you brought everything off topic, this was a relaxed topic, way to go. |
| Kitti Falling In Love With The Board Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 5688 | this thread is only "relaxed" to you because its actually a discussion of christian philosophy. you arent touching on the violence bit at all... im not saying YOU are intolerant, im saying that the human race needs to stop killing in the name of religion and accept that there are a lot of them, and they arent going to agree very often. and saying that people are stupid rebels and shit for not being christian is bashing them...or did i take that out of context too? but it certainly seems to be a very hostile attitude that everyone is taking toward pagans, which definitively means non-christians, before anyone can take that wrong. |
| spill_no_sick Falling In Love With The Board Age: 30 Gender: - Posts: 8588 | paradoxical: I'm not saying everyone should be the same religion, or that the Crusades weren't about religion but saying that Bush is declaring war because he's Christian is wrong |
| zdf_jammin Geek Age: - Gender: - Posts: 432 | fine, i will then make a christian philosophy forum, and you guys can talk about violence all you want. *humpf* |
| NeoSteph Basket Case Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 16494 | I think this covers it. GOD DIDN'T ASK PEOPLE TO GO TO WAR, he didn't appear on tv and tell everyone to pick up a gun. faith is not to blame for violence, yes people will go to war in the name of religion but they are not fighting for religion, their just USING it as a reason to go to war. people make choice, that's what faith is all about, choice. people choose to kill others. If religion didn't exist there would be some other scapegoat as a reason for war, hell people could say there fighting in the name of pop tarts. |
| zdf_jammin Geek Age: - Gender: - Posts: 432 | NeoSteph: haha pop tarts! but i totally agree with you, im sick of scapegoats |
| GangControl Jackass Age: - Gender: - Posts: 1146 | Scapegoat: a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings or mistakes of others. I don't feel its fair to call someones opinion a scapegoat, because they're not trying to single out one particular person to blame the worlds situation on. Maybe i could've put what i said at the beggining into better context. But hell, thats how it came out, and i hope you can respect that. Using the term "scapegoat" in place of a reason isn't necesarily right. I don't think there would be another scapegoat for war, because as paradoxical said, many wars have been fought over religion. And even if religion wasn't a direct cause, it would still be someones conflicting beliefs causing the violence. I'm going to agree with paradoxical again, because i don't think that in light of the situation, you could even call a subject like this relaxed (which also proves my point as i'm getting worked up about religion too) The thread was not bought off topic. What paradoxical first said is a response to what i, as the thread maker, first said. And like i said, to me faith is completely not about choice. Its about being able to control people through a "word" of a supposed higher being. By saying that atheists are "rebels" you are proving that to me. I think people need to be able to think for themselves, and not have religious duties, and elders breathing down their neck. |
| eberneezer_egghead Falling In Love With The Board Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 5484 | Isn't what the Irish conflict was all about? |
| GangControl Jackass Age: - Gender: - Posts: 1146 | Yeah I've just been watching the news. Isalmic extremists are press-ganging young men on south London estates into becoming Muslims, on pain of death. That makes me feel quite sick. |
| Gilly the Goldfish Jackass Age: - Gender: - Posts: 1402 | religion is the route of most wars it induces violence look at the crusades and ww2 |
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