Bloodraine Post Whore Age: 17 Gender: Female Posts: 24435
March 27th, 2008 at 07:35pm
Kurtni:
Bloodraine:
What about murderers who are really, truly sorry for what they have done?
Just throwing that out there.
So what? The committed a crime and they have to deal with the consequences of their actions. Being sorry doesn't bring their victims back to life. You can be sorry you've done something illegal the second after you've done it but that doesn't mean you should be exempt from punishment.
DaschundPup2007:
Bloodraine:
What about murderers who are really, truly sorry for what they have done?
Just throwing that out there.
Murder is permanent, it can't be taken back. I don't think anyone can be sorry enough for taking another life, even if it was self defense. Sure, there are people who say they are sorry, but they could be just saying what the victim's family wants to hear.
You would both hate to live in Britain then, because our justice system is somewhat lenient. Sometimes, it can be bad (I won't even go in to the fact that rape convictions are almost impossible) but other times, I have to say I agree with it.
It is rare, for example, to serve a whole sentance for anything. Murder, robbery, rape; if you show that you're sorry for what you've done and behave well in prison, then you are released after 2/3 of your sentance is served.
Very few murderers actually spend their whole lives in prison. It just doesn't happen.
tomamazon Great Success! Age: 12 Gender: Male Posts: 57056
March 27th, 2008 at 09:32pm
Isn't the executioner as much of a murderer as the person who is being executioned?
Rambling Rose King For A Couple Of Days Age: 15 Gender: Female Posts: 4626
March 27th, 2008 at 10:59pm
tomamazon:
Isn't the executioner as much of a murderer as the person who is being executioned?
I don't think so, legally it's the state/country putting the murderer to death for what he has done.
But, you bring up an interesting point, how hard it must be for the executioner to the murderer to death. I can't imagine having that as a job.
Bloodraine Post Whore Age: 17 Gender: Female Posts: 24435
March 28th, 2008 at 07:30pm
DaschundPup2007:
tomamazon:
Isn't the executioner as much of a murderer as the person who is being executioned?
I don't think so, legally it's the state/country putting the murderer to death for what he has done.
Legally, maybe not, but what about morally?
Rambling Rose King For A Couple Of Days Age: 15 Gender: Female Posts: 4626
March 28th, 2008 at 07:49pm
Well, not to sound harsh here, but, isn't it the murderer's fault for being sentenced to death as he murdered someone else?
Boobmeister Great Success! Age: 16 Gender: Female Posts: 56086
March 28th, 2008 at 07:58pm
DaschundPup2007:
Well, not to sound harsh here, but, isn't it the murderer's fault for being sentenced to death as he murdered someone else?
Two wrongs don't make a right and all that jazz.
Rambling Rose King For A Couple Of Days Age: 15 Gender: Female Posts: 4626
March 28th, 2008 at 08:09pm
Is it wrong to punish a murderer for his actions? He KILLED someone, took their life away from them. What if he's a serial killer?
Boobmeister Great Success! Age: 16 Gender: Female Posts: 56086
March 28th, 2008 at 08:10pm
DaschundPup2007:
Is it wrong to punish a murderer for his actions? He KILLED someone, took their life away from them. What if he's a serial killer?
... it's not wrong to punish him, but if you're taking his life, then that's wrong in your own books because you think murder is wrong. Or it's double standards.
Kurtni Moderator Age: 16 Gender: Female Posts: 32576
March 28th, 2008 at 10:57pm
Killing someone doesn't equal murder Murder is the wrongful killing of someone, it depends on if you think the executioner is justified or not I suppose.
Jax. Was Here 2 Weeks Ago Age: 17 Gender: Female Posts: 42834
March 28th, 2008 at 11:49pm
Kurtni:
Killing someone doesn't equal murder Murder is the wrongful killing of someone, it depends on if you think the executioner is justified or not I suppose.
But couldn't you argue that the executioner wants them dead because of what they'd done? So technically, you could say that they're just as bad.
Kurtni Moderator Age: 16 Gender: Female Posts: 32576
March 28th, 2008 at 11:51pm
Jax.:
Kurtni:
Killing someone doesn't equal murder Murder is the wrongful killing of someone, it depends on if you think the executioner is justified or not I suppose.
But couldn't you argue that the executioner wants them dead because of what they'd done? So technically, you could say that they're just as bad.
Well so would anyone who supported the death penalty in their case, that would make them all murders wouldn't it? I don't consider them to be personally, but I suppose I can see how someone could.
Jax. Was Here 2 Weeks Ago Age: 17 Gender: Female Posts: 42834
March 28th, 2008 at 11:59pm
Kurtni:
Jax.:
Kurtni:
Killing someone doesn't equal murder Murder is the wrongful killing of someone, it depends on if you think the executioner is justified or not I suppose.
But couldn't you argue that the executioner wants them dead because of what they'd done? So technically, you could say that they're just as bad.
Well so would anyone who supported the death penalty in their case, that would make them all murders wouldn't it? I don't consider them to be personally, but I suppose I can see how someone could.
Yeah, I see that point to.
Anji Basket Case Age: 19 Gender: Female Posts: 15833
March 29th, 2008 at 03:12pm
You cannot posslibly say that the executioner is not physically responsible for the death of the murderer, it doesn't matter what the law says, he is a killer by definition. If he truely doesn't believe that killing someone is right, we wouldn't do it himself. This means that the executioner must value the law over his own morals. That, or his own moral reflect exactly those of the law.
Kurtni Moderator Age: 16 Gender: Female Posts: 32576
March 30th, 2008 at 05:12am
Anji:
You cannot posslibly say that the executioner is not physically responsible for the death of the murderer
... no one said that
Anji Basket Case Age: 19 Gender: Female Posts: 15833
March 30th, 2008 at 03:13pm
Kurtni:
Anji:
You cannot posslibly say that the executioner is not physically responsible for the death of the murderer
... no one said that
That's what I'm saying.
lyrical_mess Falling In Love With The Board Age: 16 Gender: Female Posts: 5236
March 30th, 2008 at 04:47pm
Wait so...if someone hires an assassin, who's responsible for the murder? The employer or the assassin?
Kurtni Moderator Age: 16 Gender: Female Posts: 32576
March 30th, 2008 at 04:47pm
lyrical_mess:
Wait so...if someone hires an assassin, who's responsible for the murder? The employer or the assassin?
Both.
lyrical_mess Falling In Love With The Board Age: 16 Gender: Female Posts: 5236
March 30th, 2008 at 04:58pm
Ouch.
Kurtni Moderator Age: 16 Gender: Female Posts: 32576
March 30th, 2008 at 05:01pm
lyrical_mess:
Ouch.
I don't know if they would both be officially charged with murder or not though. The employer may just be an accessory to murder. However, look at Charles Manson, he wasn't employing anyone even, just leading a cult, and he was charged with the murders of the people killed by his cult. It probably depends on the circumstances of the case.
radio havana. Addict Age: 16 Gender: Female Posts: 11478
April 17th, 2008 at 03:56pm
I'm against death penalty.
If you kill the murderer what makes you any better than him then?
And I think it's much worse punishment for the murderer to live in prison for the rest of his life than being executed. Kind of gives him time to really think about it. And some,not saying all of them,might feel sorry for what they've done.
The other thing is,what if person who is charged for a murder didn't really do it? That way they kill an innocent person.
I just don't think anyone has a right to take away someone else's life. Even if that person is a murderer or a serial killer.
Murder is the wrongful killing of someone, it depends on if you think the executioner is justified or not I suppose.
