Veganism/vegetarianism

Also, when most people hear the word 'vegetarian', they think that the person being talked about is compassionate torwards animals. It doesn't mean they ARE compassionate torwards animals, like in your friend's case, but compassion is what the word implies.

kirstinlette:

Also, when most people hear the word 'vegetarian', they think that the person being talked about is compassionate torwards animals. It doesn't mean they ARE compassionate torwards animals, like in your friend's case, but compassion is what the word implies.

No. The word implies not eating dead animals.

Many people are vegetarian for health or environmental reasons.

The fact that you're "appalled" by vegetarians who are, well, vegetarians, is strange to be. I'm a vegetarian. I'm not vegan. I eat chocolate. I eat eggs. If that offends you, perhaps you should open your mind a bit?

Aside from one or two people, everyone I've ever told that I was a vegetarian automatically thought that I was an animal lover. Although it's true, for all they knew I could be a dog fighter who is vegetarian for enviromental reasons.
I see no reason to open up my mind to ways of life that directly support the abuse, suffering, mutilation, and ultimate slaughter of any creature.
Like I tell everyone who asks me about why I'm a vegetarian, "When you actually realize how your food got to your plate, and when you honestly know how many antibiodics, maggots, and fillers are in your food... you won't have to ask me that question again."

Dude, I don't see how free range eggs are supporting the 'abuse, suffering, mutilation, and ultimate slaughter of any creature'.

Padackles:

Dude, I don't see how free range eggs are supporting the 'abuse, suffering, mutilation, and ultimate slaughter of any creature'.

She's vegetarian, not vegan.
edit: okay, she might be vegan D: I'm confused.
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I'll have been vegetarian for 2 years this December and I feel very passionate about it. I'm not, like, some crazed PETA member who wants to turn the whole world vegetarian but I would recommend it to anyone and am always willing to give advice about it. One of my friends has been vegetarian for a few months and I've given him leaflets and stuff I also don't think veganism is bad and shouldn't have the stigma thats attatched to it, it is simply a further step on from vegetarianism and is perfectly healthy; any nutritionalist will tell you that.

I do get asked and hear some stupid and funny statements, though

"how do you live!?"
"isn't it boring?"
"what do you eat?"

bread and water's my limit

Trusty Chords.:

Padackles:

Dude, I don't see how free range eggs are supporting the 'abuse, suffering, mutilation, and ultimate slaughter of any creature'.

She's vegetarian, not vegan.
edit: okay, she might be vegan D: I'm confused.

Either way, I don't think free range eggs harm the chickens.

I seriously tried being a vegetarian for a month and I ended up cheating with a burger.

My first anniversary of veggiehood is coming up next month!

I don't even remember when i became a veggi

viva la cured;;:

I seriously tried being a vegetarian for a month and I ended up cheating with a burger.

I occaisionally cheat. but i don't eat omsething induvidual, like a steak. I'd eat art of a chicken or turkey from thanksgiving.

viva la cured;;:

I seriously tried being a vegetarian for a month and I ended up cheating with a burger.

I occaisionally cheat. but i don't eat omsething induvidual, like a steak. I'd eat art of a chicken or turkey from thanksgiving.

Padackles:

My first anniversary of veggiehood is coming up next month!

woo!
mine's gonna be in august

Padackles:

Trusty Chords.:

Padackles:

Dude, I don't see how free range eggs are supporting the 'abuse, suffering, mutilation, and ultimate slaughter of any creature'.

She's vegetarian, not vegan.
edit: okay, she might be vegan D: I'm confused.

Either way, I don't think free range eggs harm the chickens.

Well I mean if they're your chickens, or you know who owns the chickens, or you've been to the farm where the chickens live, then you can be certain that the eggs are genuinly free range. The problem with commercially "produced" eggs is that the guidlines for "free range" are much more lax than the guidelines for applying "free range" to other cuts of meat.

"The free range meats laws for chickens for example, merely states that chickens must be allowed to go outside. Laws for eggs from chickens considered free range are non-existent, however. Trader Joes, a low cost gourmet foods store in the US, came under fire recently from animal rights activists when it was discovered that the company had claimed their eggs were free range. It turned out the egg-laying chickens were kept in pens slightly larger than other chickens, but their movement was still restricted."

So pretty much, the farmers can be as inhumane as before, as long as they do it outside.

If you were talking about whether or not I'M vegetarian or vegan, by your terms I am a vegan. I just use the term "strict vegetarian" because I like the it more. The difference between "vegan" and "strict vegetarian" is like the difference between "mom" and "mother".
Sorry if I confused you.

Oh right, well, we get ours from my Auntie's chickens, which live outside all day and go in a hutch with a fenced in run at night, just to protect them from foxes.

I think in the UK the laws are stricter, they have to be able to roam during the day and have more space, and less chickens crammed in together and a deep litter bed, with environmental enrichment to keep them from being bored.

You can be pretty certain that in Britain, free range eggs are free range eggs.
Guidelines are strict. I mean, you're not allowed to call cheese Cheddar cheese unless it's actually been made in Cheddar (which I understand isn't the case in America). So what you can get away with in supermarkets is limited.

in america, there actually are no guidelines to free-range. there are certain qualifications for organic, and I know theres some kind of Humane society that is legitimate and does require guidelines. England and other countries do have guidelines.

here, I found a link:

http://www.aspca.org/fight-animal-cruelty/farm-animal-cruelty/what-is-certified-humane.html

I have a question. If you've been veggi for a while, and you eat meat, do you become ill? Or just feel sick?

I'd say it's subjective to every individual. I haven't done it, but psychologically I'd say I'd feeling like throwing up and I've had dreams about eating meat and feeling horrified. I don't know if psyiologically your body would object to having to deal with such a heavy load after not doing so for so long, but I think you would definitely feel dodgy, but it would depend a lot on your mental attitude towards eating the meat, too.

TOODLiEDiRNT:

I have a question. If you've been veggi for a while, and you eat meat, do you become ill? Or just feel sick?

some people do, some people don't. My tutor doesn't eat red meat, and she hasn't had it in so long that she would get sick if she did eat it.

ok, I have eaten meat in my time of being a vegetarian, but I personally didn't feel anything. Some people get sluggish.

Ah okay thanks because a while back i ate a tiny bit of meat that was in my food and not realising until i saw some. I felt ill all night after that.