""There are websites that show pink teddies hanging themselves," she said."
to be fair I draw some seriously messed up shit and look at as well but at the same time its to get rid of feelings of actually doing it, same with music, if I'm down, especially about relationships, I'll listen to Dido. So yeah its the people not the music, its how they've chosen to read into it, same with the quran and stuff.... not all people who read the quran bomb people, but some people have read into it like that.
This:
5,380 youths are arrested
4,219 youths get an std
3,610 are assaulted
80 are raped
2,861 drop out of school
1.377 become mothers [note the POINT]
1,106 have an abortion
1,000 get drunk/drink
500 do drugs
400 are arrested for drugs
6 commit suicide all in one day.
So here's my time to rant.
I was very close to one of my best friends in middle school. I moved to Pennsylvania and sorta lost contact aside from a phone call once or twice a week. I learned that he had shot his head off in his bathroom from depression. He left a note and it said LOVE in capital letters. I'm so glad this wasn't publisized because he didn't deserve anything like that. Another best friend of mine who was close to the both of us found a very "good" escape from everything. Sex, drugs and alcohol. He was arrested three times and is now a dad and he's only 15.
It's really funny how today's generation of sixth graders could tell you sex positions and how to give a good blow job but if it were the 70s or 80s that kind of shit would be unheard of coming from an eleven year olds mouth.
Hannah Bond was probably a really nice girl. I saw this really sad video on YouTube of her and she was really pretty and almost looked like she didn't have much to lose but I guess people just don't understand a lot today.
That's probably the saddest video I've seen of her.
With suicide, it's never the victem's fault. Maybe they had an off night or something but I would never blame her for the Daily News' act of stupidity.
Operatic Skeleton Had A Life Before GSB Age: 18 Gender: Female Posts: 26000
July 19th, 2008 at 11:58pm
paper shoes:
what the hell
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OliverSykes:
You know what I find incredibly crazy
This:
5,380 youths are arrested
4,219 youths get an std
3,610 are assaulted
80 are raped
2,861 drop out of school
1.377 become mothers [note the POINT]
1,106 have an abortion
1,000 get drunk/drink
500 do drugs
400 are arrested for drugs
6 commit suicide all in one day
With suicide, it's never the victem's fault. Maybe they had an off night or something but I would never blame her for the Daily News' act of stupidity.
I don't know where you got your information from girl but I'd say it's out of wack considering at least 500 youths in just my suburb do drugs everyday. And as for everything else; yeah it just seems like you pulled those numbers from anywhere.
I don't really think that you can say it's never the victims fault because there isnt really anybody to blame in that sense. It's not like it was an accident like you pushed me and I fell over and died and it was your fault.
People who commit suicide make the decision to end their life and they feel like it is a rational decison. Obviously everything that ever happens to a person makes them who they are and so EVERYTHING has to do with a suicide. If they have depression they are far far more likely to want to end their life than not but once again it is not about fault. Emo shouldn't be blamed for sucide, because only you and you yourself have the power to end your own life willingly.
The only thing that could ever be blamed for suicide in my opinionwould be a mental illness which is the cause of most suicides I would say.
This:
5,380 youths are arrested
4,219 youths get an std
3,610 are assaulted
80 are raped
2,861 drop out of school
1.377 become mothers [note the POINT]
1,106 have an abortion
1,000 get drunk/drink
500 do drugs
400 are arrested for drugs
6 commit suicide all in one day
With suicide, it's never the victem's fault. Maybe they had an off night or something but I would never blame her for the Daily News' act of stupidity.
I don't know where you got your information from girl but I'd say it's out of wack considering at least 500 youths in just my suburb do drugs everyday. And as for everything else; yeah it just seems like you pulled those numbers from anywhere.
I don't really think that you can say it's never the victims fault because there isnt really anybody to blame in that sense. It's not like it was an accident like you pushed me and I fell over and died and it was your fault.
People who commit suicide make the decision to end their life and they feel like it is a rational decison. Obviously everything that ever happens to a person makes them who they are and so EVERYTHING has to do with a suicide. If they have depression they are far far more likely to want to end their life than not but once again it is not about fault. Emo shouldn't be blamed for sucide, because only you and you yourself have the power to end your own life willingly.
The only thing that could ever be blamed for suicide in my opinionwould be a mental illness which is the cause of most suicides I would say.
I found it here:
I think it sounds pretty true. Idk what's up with your neighborhood though.
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Verbatim. King For A Couple Of Days Age: 87 Gender: Female Posts: 3223
July 20th, 2008 at 06:34pm
When the person who made that video can't even spell "abortion" correctly, I wouldn't be too trusting of that information, tbh.
The Daily Mail is definatley being biased/ridiculous. You can't blame something like suicide on music; especially music like Blink 182 and Green Day. Come on, most of those songs are funny and just meant to be fun... Many people listen to the same bands as those who have committed suicide. Those who kill themselves are a very VERY low percentage of the bands' fan base, and that should say a lot to people. Mostly, parents and the such don't want to admit that anything else could have been the cause, so they're quick to point the finger at something irrelevant.
Except for the little fact that many people do. If no one cared, this wouldn't be so controversial. Parents and music clash a lot. They definitely care, ask Marilyn Manson.
That's not what I meant. I meant that people aren't touching on the real issue, so they must not care that much or else they'd see how stupid they're being. Yeah, parents and music do clash. Don't I know it. But it's not the music, it's the parents. It's the parents hating the music. The music helps and the parents hurt. Case closed. I'm just saying htat if parents really cared they wouldn't be such assholes.
When the person who made that video can't even spell "abortion" correctly, I wouldn't be too trusting of that information, tbh.
If you read the video description, it says that the person's sorry that they spelled "abortion" wrong. Also, that might've been from some other time where the government did a poll in a random area or something.
Verbatim. King For A Couple Of Days Age: 87 Gender: Female Posts: 3223
August 18th, 2008 at 12:20am
St. Jimmy's Bitch:
Start Something.:
When the person who made that video can't even spell "abortion" correctly, I wouldn't be too trusting of that information, tbh.
If you read the video description, it says that the person's sorry that they spelled "abortion" wrong. Also, that might've been from some other time where the government did a poll in a random area or something.
well if the information was from "a random area" then they still shouldn't really be used. It would've been far more appropriate to use national statistics, which generalises the whole country, rather than just highlighting one specific area, and making no mention of that.
Either way, it is very misleading, and I find the figures hard to believe at all. I'm quite sure it wouldn't be difficult to find national statistics for any of those topics.
Edit: it'd have to be a pretty big "random area" to find somewhere that 1000 kids drink alcohol in school every day.
I think that it might have some true roots but it could've been made a while ago. I believe the suicide thing but somehow it really is hard to imagine kids dropping off the face of the earth that many in a day. idk why, it's just strange when i only know one person who's committed suicide.
Urgh, I remember reading about this a few months back in K! it's fucking stupid. The daily mail along with many other forms of media have no idea what their talking about. It makes me so angry that they print these things without even understanding what bands like My Chemical Romance are about. Although Hannah Bond's suicide was a terrible thing, the music should not be blamed, I read the stories on it, and apparently she'd joined an online 'emo cult' that encouraged self harm so why is that not being blamed, and I also read that her father saw cuts on her arms, and didnt do anything about it, So if thats true why didnt he? So I think that it's people that, misinterprate the Music from bands such as MCR/Blink 182 and people who take the lable 'emo' too far or mis understand it, and its so stupid when the Music we listen to is supposed to have the opposite effect .. *rant over*
I'm sick of people complaining about emo. Get over it. I don't think it's a big deal at all.
Janie Jones Falling In Love With The Board Age: 17 Gender: Female Posts: 5347
September 20th, 2008 at 04:23am
I don't think music makes anybody do anything. When it comes down to it, it's a person's decision, and in general people who commit suicide have problems in their lives that began way before they bought a certain record, etc. There have been a lot of horrible, tragic incidents related to the subject and I can definitely see why parents would want to blame somebody, but...in this event, specifically, the media made the poor girl's musical taste a much bigger deal than it should have been.
If you can't handle your music, then its your personal problem. Its also called natural selection. Those who can't handle their surroundings or their lives will die, whether it be by some accident or by their own hand.
Emo music is dark, yes, its emotional and deep, and some people can't take it. Listen to me, if you can't handle it, don't. I was depressed for a while, maybe because of my tastes, and i decided to take a little break from the music i loved. It worked, and now i can listen to it 100% and feel fine. She should have learned to control herself. Control is essential.
Scapegoating musical minorities as in subgenres of punk-rock. Don't hit me.
Its seriously retarded that one would go and blame My Chem for Hannah's death. Seriously, its effed up. Okay, so we all know that their lyrics are dark and bloody and bla bla bla, but thats their style. You can't change the world, the world will change you.
In estonia we have this saying: viin on tarkade jook, mis aga ei tähenda, et targad seda jooksid. Translated, it means: Vodka is a wise man's drink which doesn't mean that wise men drink vodka. This thought can be applied here. This type of music is meant for those who feel connected to it and who can handle it. It does not mean, that those who listen to it, feel connected or are able to handle it.
Fin.
Anji Basket Case Age: 19 Gender: Female Posts: 15909
September 20th, 2008 at 06:51pm
Green Day's music brought a kid out of a coma. The power of music can be surprisingly strong. 'Gloomy Sunday' as sung by Billie Holiday is the most popular suicidal song, apparently.
Jack Nicholson King For A Couple Of Days Age: 16 Gender: Female Posts: 2026
September 20th, 2008 at 11:48pm
Anji:
Green Day's music brought a kid out of a coma. The power of music can be surprisingly strong. 'Gloomy Sunday' as sung by Billie Holiday is the most popular suicidal song, apparently.
Personally I think that if you played that kid any type of band he knew it would have bought him outta that coma, coincidentally it was Green Day.
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If no one cared, this wouldn't be so controversial. Parents and music clash 
