Veganism/vegetarianism

Just curious on everyones opinion of Ellen Degeneres being a face of cover girl. She's a vegan, but cover girl tests on animals.

what i don't like about veganism (not that i am against it, i actually really admire vegans) is that it's so hard to draw a line between what's harmful for animals and what's not.
an absurd example, but still; when you drive a car the chances are high that you're gonna kill some flies and insects while driving. would a true vegan give up car travel altogether just to avoid the risk?
idk, same thing with ellen. it's easy to not eat animal products, but it get's more complicated if you decide to pose for a magazine by a corporation that tests on animals.
what would you guys do?

i don't agree with testing on animals, especially make-up. i don't know why she would be a spokes person for that. like that's just as bad as killing an animal in my opinion especially if you're a vegan you're more intense with it. it just doesn't make sense to me.

well then if she's a spokesperson it's really hypocritical

yeah that's what i meant by a face of cover girl.

what exactly is involved in testing on animals, I've never been clear. They like, put the makeup in the animals eyes to see if it majorly harms it or something??

I mean no matter what the specifics I think that's hypocritical of her, but I am curious.

i'm pretty sure that's what is it.

but yeah thats pretty bad. I'm not even a vegan or a vegetarian but I will not buy animal tested products.

you'd be surprised what products test on animals

BELLY JO.:

you'd be surprised what products test on animals

I usually check for the bottles that have the little note saying "We do not test on animals" but idk I probably have some stuff that does.

Peta has a list of companies that do.
So you could check on there if you really want to know some of them.

And, I don't know...maybe Ellen doesn't care about animal testing...though I would think it weird for her to not.

But maybe like, she was signed to a contract by a producer or something? And then what can she do? I don't know though...that is weird.

Has anybody seen this: http://news.stv.tv/scotland/east-central/240622-feeding-kids-meat-is-child-abuse-controversial-billboard-goes-up-in-scotland/

Peta just take it too far. I'm against animal abuse, but I think Peta are just ridiculous. It's disgusting to call parents of meat-eaters abusive. I don't think they quite understand what child abuse is. Giving your child meat certainly isn't. Ugh, this makes me so angry.

that's just stupid. smh

omg that fucking PISSES ME OFF, a parent who feeds their child meat is being a responsible, caring parent. Childhood is the most important stage of development and it is crucial that children get enough iron and protein (which come mainly from meat) otherwise they could face actual growth and development problems. I'm no expert, but I have taken a few dietetics classes for school. But really, that should be clear to anyone. Of course, if done right, a child can be raised as a vegetarian by their parents but in that case it's REALLY IMPORTANT that the parents get them all the nutrients they need. It's not as big of a deal to not get enough iron when you're an adult, but it's crucial for child development.

IMO I think even if I were a vegetarian I would cook my children meat until they were old enough to decide for themselves. I know people who do that too, just in MY opinion I don't think it's best to raise kids vegetarian.

I can't stand PETA. I'm for animal testing, when it's necessary, for something like Diabetes as an example. Which the founder of PETA has, and therefore would not be alive without animal testing.

Just saying.

Sam Roberts:

omg that fucking PISSES ME OFF, a parent who feeds their child meat is being a responsible, caring parent. Childhood is the most important stage of development and it is crucial that children get enough iron and protein (which come mainly from meat) otherwise they could face actual growth and development problems. I'm no expert, but I have taken a few dietetics classes for school. But really, that should be clear to anyone. Of course, if done right, a child can be raised as a vegetarian by their parents but in that case it's REALLY IMPORTANT that the parents get them all the nutrients they need. It's not as big of a deal to not get enough iron when you're an adult, but it's crucial for child development.

IMO I think even if I were a vegetarian I would cook my children meat until they were old enough to decide for themselves. I know people who do that too, just in MY opinion I don't think it's best to raise kids vegetarian.

Yeah, I agree. I think it's alright to raise your child vegetarian if you know what you're doing. I'd also give my children meat (I am vegetarian but because I just don't like the taste and texture of meat).

I don't think being a vegetarian makes you healthier, to be honest. It depends on what you do eat, not what you don't eat. There's probably just as many unhealthy vegetarians out there as unhealthy meat eaters, and healthy meat eaters as there are healthy vegetarians, etc.

Weirdly enough I've heard there are far more ex-vegetarians/vegans than current vegetarians/vegans.

Not sure how true it is.

I know a lot of ex-vegetarians. I'm not sure if I could go back to eating meat, I did have it on Christmas day for the first time in a year, but it made me feel quite sick. But maybe one day...

As for PETA, they are a total joke. Not only are they total hypocrites, over the top, and now offensive to meat-feeding parents, they're bloody sexist. They go on about animal rights, what about women's rights? Dickheads.

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Sam Roberts:

omg that fucking PISSES ME OFF, a parent who feeds their child meat is being a responsible, caring parent. Childhood is the most important stage of development and it is crucial that children get enough iron and protein (which come mainly from meat) otherwise they could face actual growth and development problems. I'm no expert, but I have taken a few dietetics classes for school. But really, that should be clear to anyone. Of course, if done right, a child can be raised as a vegetarian by their parents but in that case it's REALLY IMPORTANT that the parents get them all the nutrients they need. It's not as big of a deal to not get enough iron when you're an adult, but it's crucial for child development.

IMO I think even if I were a vegetarian I would cook my children meat until they were old enough to decide for themselves. I know people who do that too, just in MY opinion I don't think it's best to raise kids vegetarian.

Yeah, I agree. I think it's alright to raise your child vegetarian if you know what you're doing. I'd also give my children meat (I am vegetarian but because I just don't like the taste and texture of meat).

I don't think being a vegetarian makes you healthier, to be honest. It depends on what you do eat, not what you don't eat. There's probably just as many unhealthy vegetarians out there as unhealthy meat eaters, and healthy meat eaters as there are healthy vegetarians, etc.

I'm pretty sure I saw an article that said that while there is nothing wrong with being a vegetarian if you do it right, there are very few nutritionists or registered dieticians who choose to go veg.

^ yeah, meat doesn't make you unhealthy.
It's how you cook it, and how much of you eat.
Just like anything else you eat.

And I am veg, because I don't like how they kill animals for food. (as if no one on here knows that....lololol)