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if the woman has been raped or pregnant at very young age i have absolutely no problems with it. its maybe even better for the child iself, because teenage parents are oftenly incapable of raising their child well. if its just because the woman got pregnant by accident or because she doesnt want the child, i can start doubting the meaning of it. in that case i dont support it.

are we still gonna hear your own opinion on this john?

maya (american jesus):

if the woman has been raped or pregnant at very young age i have absolutely no problems with it. its maybe even better for the child iself, because teenage parents are oftenly incapable of raising their child well. if its just because the woman got pregnant by accident or because she doesnt want the child, i can start doubting the meaning of it. in that case i dont support it.

are we still gonna hear your own opinion on this john?

if you are raped then i dont have a problem but if you just use abortions has a form of birth controle then i have a problem.

I totally agree with abortion. As I'm sure you know, birth control and condoms aren't 100% protection against getting pregnant and a lot of people I know have done the dirty deed before the legal age. I've read stories where getting pregnant at 14- 16 can fuck up your life entirely. And if you're not ready for a child then it's better to get an abortion than give birth to a child you don't want that you won't love.

And aren't some anti-abortionists men? Men who will NEVER be pregnant?

Cupid Stunt:

I totally agree with abortion. As I'm sure you know, birth control and condoms aren't 100% protection against getting pregnant and a lot of people I know have done the dirty deed before the legal age. I've read stories where getting pregnant at 14- 16 can fuck up your life entirely. And if you're not ready for a child then it's better to get an abortion than give birth to a child you don't want that you won't love.

And aren't some anti-abortionists men? Men who will NEVER be pregnant?

Men who will SUFFER just as much from the loss of a child.

I have a solution; If a little slut wants to go out and get pregnant and we're arguing over Birth Control; She shouldn't have had sex in the first place!. She should have the courage and strength of her own convictions to have the baby and not bring further damage to an unborn, innocent life which has been brought into existance by her own fault.

Why is it that females always get the slut label, and men get held in high esteem in they sleep with a load of girls? ;_;

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Why is it that females always get the slut label, and men get held in high esteem in they sleep with a load of girls? ;_;

Because we still live in a very sexist world

Iwannajumpout:

Here's a little point. Everyone kind of gets antsy over the whole destroying of human life...even if it is some cells or whatever. Well, if that's bad, what about procedures that render people sterile? Is that not killing off the potential for human life? How is that really any better? You can't say...it's just cells, if you say zygotes and blastocysts (sp?) aren't "just cells"

This is very true. And how about masturbation? Not only does that kill thousands of wonderful baby sperm, but I think the Bible says that you shouldn't "spill your seed" on the ground or something...or maybe not. If not, forget I said anything at all.

Bloodraine:

Cupid Stunt:

I totally agree with abortion. As I'm sure you know, birth control and condoms aren't 100% protection against getting pregnant and a lot of people I know have done the dirty deed before the legal age. I've read stories where getting pregnant at 14- 16 can fuck up your life entirely. And if you're not ready for a child then it's better to get an abortion than give birth to a child you don't want that you won't love.

And aren't some anti-abortionists men? Men who will NEVER be pregnant?

Men who will SUFFER just as much from the loss of a child.

I have a solution; If a little slut wants to go out and get pregnant and we're arguing over Birth Control; She shouldn't have had sex in the first place!. She should have the courage and strength of her own convictions to have the baby and not bring further damage to an unborn, innocent life which has been brought into existance by her own fault.

I can understand what you're saying. But a lot of the time, if a teenage girl gets pregnant the father fucks off and leaves her to deal with it. Besides, the girl has to go through the birth and shit so it should be HER decision on whether to have an abortion or not.

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Why is it that females always get the slut label, and men get held in high esteem in they sleep with a load of girls? ;_;

Yes, men are just as bad as woman. I was using 'Slut' to emphasise my point.

And another thing.
People say that it's killing a child, ruining a life unnessicarily. Well, what about the MOTHER'S life? She's the one who's actually here on the Earth, she's the one who's going to have to go through it. Why should she have to do that if her heart is not fully in it?

Bloodraine:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Why is it that females always get the slut label, and men get held in high esteem in they sleep with a load of girls? ;_;

Yes, men are just as bad as woman. I was using 'Slut' to emphasise my point.

I know, I didn't mean you in particular. I just meant in general.

Cupid Stunt:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Why is it that females always get the slut label, and men get held in high esteem in they sleep with a load of girls? ;_;

Because we still live in a very sexist world

Yep.

Nine_Inch_Nails:

And another thing.
People say that it's killing a child, ruining a life unnessicarily. Well, what about the MOTHER'S life? She's the one who's actually here on the Earth, she's the one who's going to have to go through it. Why should she have to do that if her heart is not fully in it?

She is also the one who is (in most cases) 50% responsible for creating the child in the first place. She should face up to that and not back out. So should men, but we all know what they're like.

Bloodraine:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

And another thing.
People say that it's killing a child, ruining a life unnessicarily. Well, what about the MOTHER'S life? She's the one who's actually here on the Earth, she's the one who's going to have to go through it. Why should she have to do that if her heart is not fully in it?

She is also the one who is (in most cases) 50% responsible for creating the child in the first place. She should face up to that and not back out. So should men, but we all know what they're like.

Men have a brain and a penis and only enough blood to use one at a time.

Nine_Inch_Nails:

And another thing.
People say that it's killing a child, ruining a life unnessicarily. Well, what about the MOTHER'S life? She's the one who's actually here on the Earth, she's the one who's going to have to go through it. Why should she have to do that if her heart is not fully in it?

Amen!

Cupid Stunt:

Bloodraine:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

And another thing.
People say that it's killing a child, ruining a life unnessicarily. Well, what about the MOTHER'S life? She's the one who's actually here on the Earth, she's the one who's going to have to go through it. Why should she have to do that if her heart is not fully in it?

She is also the one who is (in most cases) 50% responsible for creating the child in the first place. She should face up to that and not back out. So should men, but we all know what they're like.

Men have a brain and a penis and only enough blood to use one at a time.

So true.

I don't believe the..thing...inside is actually a child until it takes the form of a child. I don't believe it has a spirit, to me, it's just cells.
And it's the parent's cells. Yes, they were responsible, and I'm not condoning their actions. But if they don't want the child, then surely it's better in the greater scale of things to get rid of the cells, before they grow.

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Cupid Stunt:

Bloodraine:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

And another thing.
People say that it's killing a child, ruining a life unnessicarily. Well, what about the MOTHER'S life? She's the one who's actually here on the Earth, she's the one who's going to have to go through it. Why should she have to do that if her heart is not fully in it?

She is also the one who is (in most cases) 50% responsible for creating the child in the first place. She should face up to that and not back out. So should men, but we all know what they're like.

Men have a brain and a penis and only enough blood to use one at a time.

So true.

I don't believe the..thing...inside is actually a child until it takes the form of a child. I don't believe it has a spirit, to me, it's just cells.
And it's the parent's cells. Yes, they were responsible, and I'm not condoning their actions. But if they don't want the child, then surely it's better in the greater scale of things to get rid of the cells, before they grow.

Exactley. Cos, the child is gonna have a shit life if its parents don't want it. It'll either be put up for adoption, which is a complete mind fuck, or grow up with parents who don't love it and that will fuck them up mentally. So it's kinder to get an abortion.

I think that abortion is the mother's choice. As said above, abstinence is the only way not to get pregnant and what if it was rape? The raper will have no worries, while the rapee will. If she doesn't want the baby, she shouldn't have it. And in many cases, the men don't want to support the child and the women can't because whatever. I'm for it.

i`m toatally against abortion. fetuses and embryos are people too. scientists and all them say that fetuses are just a mass of cells and tissue, so therefor are not human. but if want to get techniical, all of us are just masses of cells and tissue, so does that mean we`re not humans? of course not! abortion totally goes against God`s plan of life for us. abortion is one mouth that will never speak, two eyes that will never see, two ears that will never hear, one heart that will never be touched, one person that won`t have a first date or first kiss, or maybe make a difference in our fucking messed up world.

Warning_iNSOMNIACiDIOT:

i`m toatally against abortion. fetuses and embryos are people too. scientists and all them say that fetuses are just a mass of cells and tissue, so therefor are not human. but if want to get techniical, all of us are just masses of cells and tissue, so does that mean we`re not humans? of course not! abortion totally goes against God`s plan of life for us. abortion is one mouth that will never speak, two eyes that will never see, two ears that will never hear, one heart that will never be touched, one person that won`t have a first date or first kiss, or maybe make a difference in our fucking messed up world.

And another life that might have been saved.
I'm pro-choice all the way on this one.
Twelve year old girl is raped. Gets pregnant.
Odds that her body can handle carrying this baby? Slim to none.
Odds that abortion might save her and her family and allow her to lead a reasonably normal life (perhaps after some therapy)? Pretty good.

I have a friend who was raped by her boyfriend in seventh or eighth grade. To this day she refuses to admit she was raped. Her story was different the day after it happened.
My point is, if people are having unprotected sex by choice, it's their problem. But rape...the victim is not at fault at all. Even in healthy women, how healthy is this kid going to be growing up as a living reminder of what its biological father did to kill its mother's soul?