Disciplining Your Pets

lyrical_mess:

NeoSteph:

just one very silly point to make. when you see those famous paintings of dogs playing poker do you actually think that they are real dogs who just don't have 'bad habits'?

Well I'd say gambling is a bad habit.

It reminds me of Animal Farm.

Anji:

tyco:

yea
so we are not wild. lol
and they will not learn by being smacked.. isnt tha taking them back to the wild as you said.

You think humans don't learn from your idea of abuse? You out of all people should know that we do. You who has been through how many poor molesting families, and yet you learn nothing. Humans aren't domesticated at first, neither ar dogs, and by hitting them, you're teaching them that what they are doing is wrong.

I don't get why you think that I'm changing my arguement.

i didnt say you where changeing your argument.
though that was very below the belt and for your infomation it was only a mistake of a care home. and it is MY FAMILY.. and what i have said is everyone is taught to be domesticated.

Anji:

lyrical_mess:

NeoSteph:

just one very silly point to make. when you see those famous paintings of dogs playing poker do you actually think that they are real dogs who just don't have 'bad habits'?

Well I'd say gambling is a bad habit.

It reminds me of Animal Farm.

All animals are equal. But some are more equal than others. I love that book.

lyrical_mess:

Anji:

lyrical_mess:

NeoSteph:

just one very silly point to make. when you see those famous paintings of dogs playing poker do you actually think that they are real dogs who just don't have 'bad habits'?

Well I'd say gambling is a bad habit.

It reminds me of Animal Farm.

All animals are equal. But some are more equal than others. I love that book.

Quite possibily the best fairytale ever.

Oooh, also what's your opinion on like...horse pets. Yeah...like the little whips that they use on horses. Too far? Just right? Depolarable or justifiable?

Anji:

FUCK YOU. If you're going to insult me then leave. It is not abuse. My dogs have not been harmed at all. Ask my vet. Ask all my vets. Ask the dog trainers I know. My pets are pleanty healthy.

im not going anywhere
the health of the dog has nothing to do with it.. and i know you love your dogs and look after them, but that dosnt mean hitting is right.

Joan Greenwood:

lyrical_mess:

Anji:

lyrical_mess:

NeoSteph:

just one very silly point to make. when you see those famous paintings of dogs playing poker do you actually think that they are real dogs who just don't have 'bad habits'?

Well I'd say gambling is a bad habit.

It reminds me of Animal Farm.

All animals are equal. But some are more equal than others. I love that book.

Quite possibily the best fairytale ever.

Oooh, also what's your opinion on like...horse pets. Yeah...like the little whips that they use on horses. Too far? Just right? Depolarable or justifiable?

FAIRYTALE?! Psssh, it was real.

tyco:

Anji:

tyco:

yea
so we are not wild. lol
and they will not learn by being smacked.. isnt tha taking them back to the wild as you said.

You think humans don't learn from your idea of abuse? You out of all people should know that we do. You who has been through how many poor molesting families, and yet you learn nothing. Humans aren't domesticated at first, neither ar dogs, and by hitting them, you're teaching them that what they are doing is wrong.

I don't get why you think that I'm changing my arguement.

i didnt say you where changeing your argument.
though that was very below the belt and for your infomation it was only a mistake of a care home. and it is MY FAMILY.. and what i have said is everyone is taught to be domesticated.

YES. EXactly. And pets have to be taught to be domesticated too. Otherwise, no one would want them there and they wouldn't be pets. Would you want a disgusting sleazeball brother who goes out every night and knocks up girls and throws his old underwear all over the house? I'm willing to bet the answer's a no.

Anji:

tyco:

yea thats why we teach and dont dicepline. its like your telling somone off for doing somethin they have done all there life like picking your nose.. you cant tell somone off for that if its all they have known therefor you teach them the correct thing to do.

You just said that picking your nose isn't a gene. It's an instinct according to you. So then it gets fixed differently.

yea it is an instinct everything we do is an instinct cause there is nothing we do that hasnt been taught.
and genes cant be fixed i dont think you know what a gene is.. its not what we act like or do... they are all taught

Anji:

Joan Greenwood:

Quite possibily the best fairytale ever.

Oooh, also what's your opinion on like...horse pets. Yeah...like the little whips that they use on horses. Too far? Just right? Depolarable or justifiable?

FAIRYTALE?! Psssh, it was real.

That's what he orgginally wanted to call his novel history of Animal Farm

Animal Farm : A Fairytale.

'Cept everyone dropped the 'A Fairytale' part because they said there was no market in fairytales.

Anji:

Joan Greenwood:

Quite possibily the best fairytale ever.[

Oooh, also what's your opinion on like...horse pets. Yeah...like the little whips that they use on horses. Too far? Just right? Depolarable or justifiable?

FAIRYTALE?! Psssh, it was real.

Wasn't it a metaphor for the fascist regime?

tyco:

Anji:

FUCK YOU. If you're going to insult me then leave. It is not abuse. My dogs have not been harmed at all. Ask my vet. Ask all my vets. Ask the dog trainers I know. My pets are pleanty healthy.

im not going anywhere
the health of the dog has nothing to do with it.. and i know you love your dogs and look after them, but that dosnt mean hitting is right.

Then don't insult me if you want to stay.

I don't abuse anything I love. And I believe hitting is the right way to go because it builds their character and it teachs them who's boss. It makes them more domesticated and they learn what not to do. No other means of disciplin will do that. 'Tones' won't make the dog realise who's in control as much because it is hard for dogs to hear in the register of the human voice to be able to distinguish these tones.

tyco:

Anji:

tyco:

yea thats why we teach and dont dicepline. its like your telling somone off for doing somethin they have done all there life like picking your nose.. you cant tell somone off for that if its all they have known therefor you teach them the correct thing to do.

You just said that picking your nose isn't a gene. It's an instinct according to you. So then it gets fixed differently.

yea it is an instinct everything we do is an instinct cause there is nothing we do that hasnt been taught.
and genes cant be fixed i dont think you know what a gene is.. its not what we act like or do... they are all taught

Um...no. Genes can be fixed. I found an article just this morning actually. When this argument blows over, I'll dig it up again.

lyrical_mess:

Anji:

Joan Greenwood:

Quite possibily the best fairytale ever.[

Oooh, also what's your opinion on like...horse pets. Yeah...like the little whips that they use on horses. Too far? Just right? Depolarable or justifiable?

FAIRYTALE?! Psssh, it was real.

Wasn't it a metaphor for the fascist regime?

No, it was a satire.

The most beautiful, gorgeous, vibrantly written satire ever created.

Joan Greenwood:

lyrical_mess:

Anji:

lyrical_mess:

NeoSteph:

just one very silly point to make. when you see those famous paintings of dogs playing poker do you actually think that they are real dogs who just don't have 'bad habits'?

Well I'd say gambling is a bad habit.

It reminds me of Animal Farm.

All animals are equal. But some are more equal than others. I love that book.

Quite possibily the best fairytale ever.

Oooh, also what's your opinion on like...horse pets. Yeah...like the little whips that they use on horses. Too far? Just right? Depolarable or justifiable?

a heard that horses muscle dosnt actually feel the whip as pain there for i think its justifiable.. though i dont know anything about horses so i wouldnt know if that was true or not

Joan Greenwood:

Anji:

Joan Greenwood:

Quite possibily the best fairytale ever.

Oooh, also what's your opinion on like...horse pets. Yeah...like the little whips that they use on horses. Too far? Just right? Depolarable or justifiable?

FAIRYTALE?! Psssh, it was real.

That's what he orgginally wanted to call his novel history of Animal Farm

Animal Farm : A Fairytale.

'Cept everyone dropped the 'A Fairytale' part because they said there was no market in fairytales.

That is one cynical fairytale.

Anji:

lyrical_mess:

Anji:

Joan Greenwood:

Quite possibily the best fairytale ever.[

Oooh, also what's your opinion on like...horse pets. Yeah...like the little whips that they use on horses. Too far? Just right? Depolarable or justifiable?

FAIRYTALE?! Psssh, it was real.

Wasn't it a metaphor for the fascist regime?

No, it was a satire.

The most beautiful, gorgeous, vibrantly written satire ever created.

Did you ever read that other story? The Magical Rabbits?

lyrical_mess:

Anji:

Joan Greenwood:

Quite possibily the best fairytale ever.[

Oooh, also what's your opinion on like...horse pets. Yeah...like the little whips that they use on horses. Too far? Just right? Depolarable or justifiable?

FAIRYTALE?! Psssh, it was real.

Wasn't it a metaphor for the fascist regime?

Yeah, well sorta.

Old Major was Marx, I think.
Napolean was Stalin.
The two farms were divided between the Allies and the Axis.
Annnnd Boxer was the 'proles'.

There's other stuff too but I don't wanna go into it.

lyrical_mess:

tyco:

Anji:

tyco:

yea thats why we teach and dont dicepline. its like your telling somone off for doing somethin they have done all there life like picking your nose.. you cant tell somone off for that if its all they have known therefor you teach them the correct thing to do.

You just said that picking your nose isn't a gene. It's an instinct according to you. So then it gets fixed differently.

yea it is an instinct everything we do is an instinct cause there is nothing we do that hasnt been taught.
and genes cant be fixed i dont think you know what a gene is.. its not what we act like or do... they are all taught

Um...no. Genes can be fixed. I found an article just this morning actually. When this argument blows over, I'll dig it up again.

i would love to see that
a gene is inherited not a behaviour taught by somone else.

tyco:

Anji:

tyco:

yea thats why we teach and dont dicepline. its like your telling somone off for doing somethin they have done all there life like picking your nose.. you cant tell somone off for that if its all they have known therefor you teach them the correct thing to do.

You just said that picking your nose isn't a gene. It's an instinct according to you. So then it gets fixed differently.

yea it is an instinct everything we do is an instinct cause there is nothing we do that hasnt been taught.
and genes cant be fixed i dont think you know what a gene is.. its not what we act like or do... they are all taught

Genes can be fixed. I hope you are living proof of that. Are you potty trained then that's your wild gene fixed right there.

If babies were allowed to run loose, OK even better example, Lord of the Flies, everyones read this book. That's what happens if you aren't taught disciplin.

anyways brb cause i need to stretch my legs..