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June 14th, 2006 at 01:13pm
Trunks <3:
Yes i know its still illegal but at leagl brothels the workers get checked for STD's etc etc. and no, by making it legal that makes it safer. prositiution will always be around, so if its legal people dont have to worry as mcuh about any violence
Ok, they get checked for STD's, that doesnt prevent them from getting them. What if they get HIV?
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June 14th, 2006 at 01:19pm
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Trunks <3:
Yes i know its still illegal but at leagl brothels the workers get checked for STD's etc etc. and no, by making it legal that makes it safer. prositiution will always be around, so if its legal people dont have to worry as mcuh about any violence
Ok, they get checked for STD's, that doesnt prevent them from getting them. What if they get HIV?


condoms i know are not 100% but however they are and have been prooven to be a good deffender of HIV and STD's, however like i have said many times before this if they make it legal and abouve board it will cut donw on sex crimes and it will make the job safer for the girls and men, not every women who does this is a whore, slut or tramp, some do it becasue they like to and some do it because they are paying for the things they want, andi know of two girls who do it because they DO NOT want to claim state befnifits surley that is they're right and nobody elses,

everyone will be complaining if these people were claiming benfifits and saying things like "why dont they get a job they must be lazy" i respect every person who does this has a living and i look at people for who they are and not what they do.
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June 14th, 2006 at 01:30pm
Magne:
I_worship_tre_Cool:
Trunks <3:
Yes i know its still illegal but at leagl brothels the workers get checked for STD's etc etc. and no, by making it legal that makes it safer. prositiution will always be around, so if its legal people dont have to worry as mcuh about any violence
Ok, they get checked for STD's, that doesnt prevent them from getting them. What if they get HIV?


condoms i know are not 100% but however they are and have been prooven to be a good deffender of HIV and STD's, however like i have said many times before this if they make it legal and abouve board it will cut donw on sex crimes and it will make the job safer for the girls and men, not every women who does this is a whore, slut or tramp, some do it becasue they like to and some do it because they are paying for the things they want, andi know of two girls who do it because they DO NOT want to claim state befnifits surley that is they're right and nobody elses,

everyone will be complaining if these people were claiming benfifits and saying things like "why dont they get a job they must be lazy" i respect every person who does this has a living and i look at people for who they are and not what they do.


In response to the bolded part. Prostitution is not the only job in the world my Dear, there are many, so many in fact, I can't list them all. I don't care if they don't want state benifits, they are there to be taken by those who need them. If they are so concerned as to what other people say about them, they are more immature than I thought. Sleeping with random men is nasty and sickening. How does making it legal make it safe? What, is the law going to have a chat with the STD's and tell them not to infect peiople? Explain to me how it would cut down on sex crimes? If anything it would only increase them by exposing more people to prostitution. Sex Crimes are not always about the want for sex, it can be control issues, mental issues, all kinds of things. The sex crimes arguemnet is stupid and false.

Confused Ok, this next point trouble me a bit, the " are paying for the things they want" Ok, so all the people who pray have to sleep with people now? That has got to be the most irrantional arguement in this thread yet.

You seem to be forgetting all the women forced into this industry. I highly recommend you read the human trafficking thread, it would be good for you.
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June 14th, 2006 at 01:33pm
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Magne:
I_worship_tre_Cool:
Trunks <3:
Yes i know its still illegal but at leagl brothels the workers get checked for STD's etc etc. and no, by making it legal that makes it safer. prositiution will always be around, so if its legal people dont have to worry as mcuh about any violence
Ok, they get checked for STD's, that doesnt prevent them from getting them. What if they get HIV?


condoms i know are not 100% but however they are and have been prooven to be a good deffender of HIV and STD's, however like i have said many times before this if they make it legal and abouve board it will cut donw on sex crimes and it will make the job safer for the girls and men, not every women who does this is a whore, slut or tramp, some do it becasue they like to and some do it because they are paying for the things they want, andi know of two girls who do it because they DO NOT want to claim state befnifits surley that is they're right and nobody elses,

everyone will be complaining if these people were claiming benfifits and saying things like "why dont they get a job they must be lazy" i respect every person who does this has a living and i look at people for who they are and not what they do.


In response to the bolded part. Prostitution is not the only job in the world my Dear, there are many, so many in fact, I can't list them all. I don't care if they don't want state benifits, they are there to be taken by those who need them. If they are so concerned as to what other people say about them, they are more immature than I thought. Sleeping with random men is nasty and sickening. How does making it legal make it safe? What, is the law going to have a chat with the STD's and tell them not to infect peiople? Explain to me how it would cut down on sex crimes? If anything it would only increase them by exposing more people to prostitution. Sex Crimes are not always about the want for sex, it can be control issues, mental issues, all kinds of things. The sex crimes arguemnet is stupid and false.

Confused Ok, this next point trouble me a bit, the " are paying for the things they want" Ok, so all the people who pray have to sleep with people now? That has got to be the most irrantional arguement in this thread yet.

You seem to be forgetting all the women forced into this industry. I highly recommend you read the human trafficking thread, it would be good for you.


i have thsnkyou.

and it will cut down on sex crimes because these men and women will have a place to go and have sex, and making it legal will force these girls and men to wear protection, the goverment will then be able to regulate the workers in the practice and have them called in for testing, and anyway most girls dont worl all month and therefore are able to have a break from it.
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June 14th, 2006 at 01:36pm
Ok, well until you reply to everything I say, I can't debate with you. Selective Debating is one thing, not wanting to admit you can't justify something is entirely different. This is a waste of thread space. Did you read my post? I wonder sometimes

I_worship_tre_Cool:
Sex Crimes are not always about the want for sex, it can be control issues, mental issues, all kinds of things. The sex crimes arguemnet is stupid and false


I_worship_tre_Cool:
How does making it legal make it safe? What, is the law going to have a chat with the STD's and tell them not to infect peiople?


Condoms are not 100% effective.
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June 14th, 2006 at 01:38pm
I_worship_tre_Cool:
Ok, well until you reply to everything I say, I can't debate with you. Selective Debating is one thing, not wanting to admit you can't justify something is entirely different. This is a waste of thread space. Did you read my post? I wonder sometimes

I_worship_tre_Cool:
Sex Crimes are not always about the want for sex, it can be control issues, mental issues, all kinds of things. The sex crimes arguemnet is stupid and false


I_worship_tre_Cool:
How does making it legal make it safe? What, is the law going to have a chat with the STD's and tell them not to infect peiople?


Condoms are not 100% effective.


i did answer your points.
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June 14th, 2006 at 01:48pm
Magne:
I_worship_tre_Cool:
Ok, well until you reply to everything I say, I can't debate with you. Selective Debating is one thing, not wanting to admit you can't justify something is entirely different. This is a waste of thread space. Did you read my post? I wonder sometimes

I_worship_tre_Cool:
Sex Crimes are not always about the want for sex, it can be control issues, mental issues, all kinds of things. The sex crimes arguemnet is stupid and false


I_worship_tre_Cool:
How does making it legal make it safe? What, is the law going to have a chat with the STD's and tell them not to infect peiople?


Condoms are not 100% effective.

i did answer your points.
You said absolutely nothing in response to me when I said there are other jobs besides sleeping with people. You said nothing about me saying they shouldnt care about what people say when they claim state benifits. You said nothing about my response to them praying for things. You didnt say anything about sex crimes increasing because of prostitution (do you know how many prostitues are raped and killed everyday?) And you said absolutely nothing about Human Traffiking.
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June 14th, 2006 at 05:06pm
Magne:
I_worship_tre_Cool:
Trunks <3:
Yes i know its still illegal but at leagl brothels the workers get checked for STD's etc etc. and no, by making it legal that makes it safer. prositiution will always be around, so if its legal people dont have to worry as mcuh about any violence
Ok, they get checked for STD's, that doesnt prevent them from getting them. What if they get HIV?


condoms i know are not 100% but however they are and have been prooven to be a good deffender of HIV and STD's, however like i have said many times before this if they make it legal and abouve board it will cut donw on sex crimes and it will make the job safer for the girls and men, not every women who does this is a whore, slut or tramp, some do it becasue they like to and some do it because they are paying for the things they want, andi know of two girls who do it because they DO NOT want to claim state befnifits surley that is they're right and nobody elses,

everyone will be complaining if these people were claiming benfifits and saying things like "why dont they get a job they must be lazy" i respect every person who does this has a living and i look at people for who they are and not what they do.


If they are a prostitute because "they want" to be, then they deserve no respect. However, Im willing to bet no woman on Earth wants to be a prostitute. The fact that you said that makes almost every opinion you have invalid. Thats unbelievably idiotic.

Hey, maybe Im wrong. Maybe they like to do whatever every man they do business with wants. Maybe they like being controlled and smacked around by a pimp. Maybe they love not knowing how they are going to end up, whether it be pregnant, or infected with a life-threatening STD. Maybe thats all fun and games to them.

And how in the hell will making it legal cut down on sex crimes? Im pretty sure they guys partaking in it arent thinking "Hmm, i could go to jail for sleeping with this prostitute, so ill just rape and kill her."

You sure are a genius.
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June 14th, 2006 at 05:35pm
no_one:

And also for every1 who agrees with him, do you think prostitutes should be registered, licensed etc. so that there can be no 'illegal whoring'?


Nope. I don't see prostitution as an industry.
I don't think many "whores" like doing what they're doing.
Yes, it's true, there will always be a "sex industry".
I don't think just legallizing it is going to help anyone. These men/women need help. No one should have to turn to prostitution for any reason. Wheather it's drugs, or getting the money to make ends meet.
When prostitution is illegal, and these people are being picked up by the cops to spend the night in jail, I think is disgusting. I think they should be sent to rehab if their reason for prostituting is drug money. If it's to feed their children, they should be told about places where they can get help, like for food or better, cheaper housing.

I don't quite understand what you mean by "legalize", if you mean it's just allowed, or if the people are being helped.
If the people are being helped, then yes, it's an excellent thing. If not, your government can go drown itself.

That's how I see it anyways.
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June 14th, 2006 at 06:52pm
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no_one:

And also for every1 who agrees with him, do you think prostitutes should be registered, licensed etc. so that there can be no 'illegal whoring'?


Nope. I don't see prostitution as an industry.
I don't think many "whores" like doing what they're doing.
Yes, it's true, there will always be a "sex industry".
I don't think just legallizing it is going to help anyone. These men/women need help. No one should have to turn to prostitution for any reason. Wheather it's drugs, or getting the money to make ends meet.
When prostitution is illegal, and these people are being picked up by the cops to spend the night in jail, I think is disgusting. I think they should be sent to rehab if their reason for prostituting is drug money. If it's to feed their children, they should be told about places where they can get help, like for food or better, cheaper housing.

I don't quite understand what you mean by "legalize", if you mean it's just allowed, or if the people are being helped.
If the people are being helped, then yes, it's an excellent thing. If not, your government can go drown itself.

That's how I see it anyways.
hey, there are girls all over my school who see Paris Hilton as a role model, they are setting up their future for being nothing important/intelligent/individual/any other i words that are kryptonite to prostitutes

the men now certainly aren't maturing either, we need to do something because the men think it's a woman's place and girls are starting to think that too

with prostitution going digital it will replace the porn industry
(not really, but it will get that big
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June 14th, 2006 at 06:59pm
license are underrated, legalize
make 647b one less thing cops have to recognize (yes, I watch the show THAT MUCH!

think about it:
-we make sure the girls/guys want to do it
-we keep them clean of STDs
-we make sure they're at least sixteen (I believe in twenty years the age will go down two years
-we can keep a tole on the legal ones, where they are, what websites they use, and handy information
-it will give left wingers one more thing to bitch about
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June 14th, 2006 at 07:03pm
spill_no_sick:
license are underrated, legalize
make 647b one less thing cops have to recognize (yes, I watch the show THAT MUCH!

think about it:
-we make sure the girls/guys want to do it
-we keep them clean of STDs
-we make sure they're at least sixteen (I believe in twenty years the age will go down two years
-we can keep a tole on the legal ones, where they are, what websites they use, and handy information
-it will give left wingers one more thing to bitch about
How can you keep them clean of STD's? Condoms are not 100% effective and some STD's once you contract, you can't get rid of them. When you think of how many men prostitutes sleep with in a Day, think of how fast HIV could be spread.
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June 14th, 2006 at 07:09pm
I_worship_tre_Cool:
spill_no_sick:
license are underrated, legalize
make 647b one less thing cops have to recognize (yes, I watch the show THAT MUCH!

think about it:
-we make sure the girls/guys want to do it
-we keep them clean of STDs
-we make sure they're at least sixteen (I believe in twenty years the age will go down two years
-we can keep a tole on the legal ones, where they are, what websites they use, and handy information
-it will give left wingers one more thing to bitch about
How can you keep them clean of STD's? Condoms are not 100% effective and some STD's once you contract, you can't get rid of them. When you think of how many men prostitutes sleep with in a Day, think of how fast HIV could be spread.
I said they need to renew their lisence often
and birth control is much more effective
all you have to do is know when your eggs are out
and if they have STDs it will say on the license, so that way the perverted guys who don't check the license wind up not buying condoms and have to leave with something funky living on their funky parts
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June 14th, 2006 at 07:09pm
Legal prostitution?

If society accepts it, it becomes acceptable. Why should it become acceptable now? (to the majority of the population.) Is the world too busy to care about morals?
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June 14th, 2006 at 07:11pm
spill_no_sick:
I_worship_tre_Cool:
spill_no_sick:
license are underrated, legalize
make 647b one less thing cops have to recognize (yes, I watch the show THAT MUCH!

think about it:
-we make sure the girls/guys want to do it
-we keep them clean of STDs
-we make sure they're at least sixteen (I believe in twenty years the age will go down two years
-we can keep a tole on the legal ones, where they are, what websites they use, and handy information
-it will give left wingers one more thing to bitch about
How can you keep them clean of STD's? Condoms are not 100% effective and some STD's once you contract, you can't get rid of them. When you think of how many men prostitutes sleep with in a Day, think of how fast HIV could be spread.
I said they need to renew their lisence often
and birth control is much more effective
all you have to do is know when your eggs are out
and if they have STDs it will say on the license, so that way the perverted guys who don't check the license wind up not buying condoms and have to leave with something funky living on their funky parts
Birth Control isnt 100% effective either, and it doesnt prevent STD's.
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June 14th, 2006 at 07:12pm
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Legal prostitution?

If society accepts it, it becomes acceptable. Why should it become acceptable now? (to the majority of the population.) Is the world too busy to care about morals?
no
but if we let the immoral people be immoral (which they would be anyway) then there won't be as many innocent forteen year old girls sucked into this because it's no longer necessary
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June 14th, 2006 at 07:20pm
spill_no_sick:
Handguns For Hearts:
Legal prostitution?

If society accepts it, it becomes acceptable. Why should it become acceptable now? (to the majority of the population.) Is the world too busy to care about morals?
no
but if we let the immoral people be immoral (which they would be anyway) then there won't be as many innocent forteen year old girls sucked into this because it's no longer necessary


how would that work?

it become legal which means there will be enough ''immoral'' people to take up the places of innocents trapped''

the majority people don't chose to become prostitues, it wouldn't stop those 14 year old girls who ar ebeing abused at home, running away and getting caught in the web.

legalis prostitution and underage prostitutes would go further undergorund with one piece of law stripped away to protect them.
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June 14th, 2006 at 08:16pm
spill_no_sick:
Handguns For Hearts:
Legal prostitution?

If society accepts it, it becomes acceptable. Why should it become acceptable now? (to the majority of the population.) Is the world too busy to care about morals?
no
but if we let the immoral people be immoral (which they would be anyway) then there won't be as many innocent forteen year old girls sucked into this because it's no longer necessary

But legalizing it doesn't get rid of compulsions. Removing the allure of the illegal or social taboo doesn't make prostitution non-issue.
A lot of prostitution is not just about money, it's not just business.
It's sexual compulsion. Not just exploiting and marketing sex. Compulsion. You can't do away with compulsions with laws. It doesn't work like that.
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June 16th, 2006 at 11:24am
spill_no_sick:
license are underrated, legalize
make 647b one less thing cops have to recognize (yes, I watch the show THAT MUCH!

think about it:
-we make sure the girls/guys want to do it
-we keep them clean of STDs
-we make sure they're at least sixteen (I believe in twenty years the age will go down two years
-we can keep a tole on the legal ones, where they are, what websites they use, and handy information
-it will give left wingers one more thing to bitch about

Hmm? Cool

Last point excepted, I agree with everything you have to say there. It makes sense, you know. Legal prostitution means the prostitutes get a degree of protection (and yes. you do deserve that. every human being deserves that, whether they save people's lives or screw for money for a living). Legal prostitution means we can make sure these people are over 16, because believe me a lot of them won't be. It'd be easy to fake your age when nobody even cares as long as you look 16.

Keeping a track on the legal ones is good too, now they aren't confined to the underworld it's going to be easier to make sure they're free of STDS.
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June 16th, 2006 at 11:47am
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spill_no_sick:
license are underrated, legalize
make 647b one less thing cops have to recognize (yes, I watch the show THAT MUCH!

think about it:
-we make sure the girls/guys want to do it
-we keep them clean of STDs
-we make sure they're at least sixteen (I believe in twenty years the age will go down two years
-we can keep a tole on the legal ones, where they are, what websites they use, and handy information
-it will give left wingers one more thing to bitch about

Hmm? Cool

Last point excepted, I agree with everything you have to say there. It makes sense, you know. Legal prostitution means the prostitutes get a degree of protection (and yes. you do deserve that. every human being deserves that, whether they save people's lives or screw for money for a living). Legal prostitution means we can make sure these people are over 16, because believe me a lot of them won't be. It'd be easy to fake your age when nobody even cares as long as you look 16.
Keeping a track on the legal ones is good too, now they aren't confined to the underworld it's going to be easier to make sure they're free of STDS.
You don't think their age wouldnt still be faked? Some Women are under 16 and would be forced into doing this out of fear by whomever is controlling them. What if they were imported illegally and only used for this industry without their consent. By making it legal, as long as they have a liscense, nothing would be done for them. Pay a visit to the Human Traffiking thread

As for the STD's thing, how is making it legal going to help that at all? What are you going to tell the STD's to please not infect the prostitutes, they have a liscense now? Even if they are checked, it doesnt mean they wont be infected and it isn't going to solve the problem. If anything, more people would become prostitutes because it is now accepted and pnly increase the spread of STD's.
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