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tyco Jackass
 Age: 37 Gender: Male Posts: 1117 | January 14th, 2007 at 07:25am NeoSteph:tyco:NeoSteph:tyco:they are mostly put in secure wings of prisons, but your right they should not be killed if killing is wrong in the eyes of the law then its wrong for everyone.
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okay i also agree they souldnt be killed but i dissagree with this statement cause seriously if somone killed my friend or family i would want revenge fuck the law it hs nothing to do with them.
LAW is what seperates us from animals LAW is what stops anarchy from breaking out and breaking down 'polite' society LAW is what allows us to keep our morals, because we know we are protected.
You can't justify killing of any kind. Firstly when it comes to child molesters there's a certain degree of pyschology involved meaning they can't be fully held responcible for their actions and should be placed in a mental institution.
secondly, if the wrong person is caught you can't 'unkill' someone
Thirdly law governs our society and IS society so it has everything to do with them.
no i wasnt talking about pedos and i also agreed they shouldnt be killed
and it really dosnt have anything to do with them cause its down to me they can only try and stop me from killing somone.. and if somone took the life of a friend or family member that is what i would want to do... depending on the case of corse.
and im not being funny... but seriously...whenever you see somone who is remotely attractive do you go up and have a play?? tell them not to tell anyone it wont hurt... the answer is NO... they have the will to stop themselves... there just disgusting.. and how can you justifie the pain and suffering the child has to go through at the time and as they grow up?
you have obviously misunderstood everything i'm saying 0_o
i'm not saying the crime is any less significant but to understand the nature of what happened you have to take all aspects into account. you can't ignore mental health probems because of the deprevity of the crime.
my sister is a little retarded.. she still has will to say no to stop herself doing things! |
Matt Smith Admin
 Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 31134
 | January 14th, 2007 at 08:03am tyco:my sister is a little retarded.. she still has will to say no to stop herself doing thing!
There is more than one type of mental disorder in the world...  |
NeoSteph Basket Case
 Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 16494
 | January 14th, 2007 at 08:04am Not everybody has the same mental health problems. some cases range from believing what their doing isn't wrong but normal or to completely not being on the same plain of thought than us
by the way don't you think it's insensitive to call your sister retarded. |
tyco Jackass
 Age: 37 Gender: Male Posts: 1117 | January 14th, 2007 at 03:20pm still not even a mental dissorder can justify that! |
NeoSteph Basket Case
 Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 16494
 | January 15th, 2007 at 10:12am tyco:still not even a mental dissorder can justify that!
For the love of pete no one is saying that it justify's the atrocity but you have to take it into accoutn so that the court of law can fully understand not only what happened but why. |
tyco Jackass
 Age: 37 Gender: Male Posts: 1117 | January 16th, 2007 at 03:48am NeoSteph:tyco:still not even a mental dissorder can justify that!
For the love of pete no one is saying that it justify's the atrocity but you have to take it into accoutn so that the court of law can fully understand not only what happened but why.
okay agreed but still no one can justify it!  sorry..
i see what ya mean but by sending them to a mental instatution they are getting away lightly.. they should get the same punishment as everyone else.. |
NeoSteph Basket Case
 Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 16494
 | January 16th, 2007 at 08:42am tyco:NeoSteph:tyco:still not even a mental dissorder can justify that!
For the love of pete no one is saying that it justify's the atrocity but you have to take it into accoutn so that the court of law can fully understand not only what happened but why.
okay agreed but still no one can justify it!  sorry..
i see what ya mean but by sending them to a mental instatution they are getting away lightly.. they should get the same punishment as everyone else..
being locked up in a mental asylum and being locked in a prison is really not that different to the frame of mind to the patient. To them having no contact with children would infuriate them. |
tyco Jackass
 Age: 37 Gender: Male Posts: 1117 | January 16th, 2007 at 09:55am NeoSteph:tyco:NeoSteph:tyco:still not even a mental dissorder can justify that!
For the love of pete no one is saying that it justify's the atrocity but you have to take it into accoutn so that the court of law can fully understand not only what happened but why.
okay agreed but still no one can justify it!  sorry..
i see what ya mean but by sending them to a mental instatution they are getting away lightly.. they should get the same punishment as everyone else..
being locked up in a mental asylum and being locked in a prison is really not that different to the frame of mind to the patient. To them having no contact with children would infuriate them.
but they wouldnt get that in prison either or all the luxurys. |
Anji Basket Case
 Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914
 | January 16th, 2007 at 10:07am tyco:but they wouldnt get that in prison either or all the luxurys. Do you think they should stay in prison rather than go somewhere where they'll still be locked up, but to get better? |
tyco Jackass
 Age: 37 Gender: Male Posts: 1117 | January 16th, 2007 at 10:09am Anji:tyco:but they wouldnt get that in prison either or all the luxurys. Do you think they should stay in prison rather than go somewhere where they'll still be locked up, but to get better?
yes untill the day they die then they need not get better anyways.. |
Anji Basket Case
 Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914
 | January 16th, 2007 at 10:14am tyco:Anji:tyco:but they wouldnt get that in prison either or all the luxurys. Do you think they should stay in prison rather than go somewhere where they'll still be locked up, but to get better?
yes untill the day they die then they need not get better anyways.. If somebody had unprotected sex, and they got AIDS, would you deny them treatment? |
tyco Jackass
 Age: 37 Gender: Male Posts: 1117 | January 16th, 2007 at 10:23am no.. thats compleatly different. |
NeoSteph Basket Case
 Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 16494
 | January 16th, 2007 at 10:32am tyco:NeoSteph:tyco:NeoSteph:tyco:still not even a mental dissorder can justify that!
For the love of pete no one is saying that it justify's the atrocity but you have to take it into accoutn so that the court of law can fully understand not only what happened but why.
okay agreed but still no one can justify it!  sorry..
i see what ya mean but by sending them to a mental instatution they are getting away lightly.. they should get the same punishment as everyone else..
being locked up in a mental asylum and being locked in a prison is really not that different to the frame of mind to the patient. To them having no contact with children would infuriate them.
but they wouldnt get that in prison either or all the luxurys.
They don't get luxury's they only thing different between asylum and prison, is instead of bars it's a padded room and they also have to attend therapy which is not only useful to themselves but to us, because we are able to learn more about the human mind. |
Anji Basket Case
 Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914
 | January 16th, 2007 at 10:36am tyco:no.. thats compleatly different. How? |
tyco Jackass
 Age: 37 Gender: Male Posts: 1117 | January 16th, 2007 at 11:15am For the love of pete no one is saying that it justify's the atrocity but you have to take it into accoutn so that the court of law can fully understand not only what happened but why.[/quote]
okay agreed but still no one can justify it!  sorry..
i see what ya mean but by sending them to a mental instatution they are getting away lightly.. they should get the same punishment as everyone else..[/quote]
being locked up in a mental asylum and being locked in a prison is really not that different to the frame of mind to the patient. To them having no contact with children would infuriate them.[/quote]
but they wouldnt get that in prison either or all the luxurys.[/quote]
They don't get luxury's they only thing different between asylum and prison, is instead of bars it's a padded room and they also have to attend therapy which is not only useful to themselves but to us, because we are able to learn more about the human mind.[/quote]
very few patients get the padded rooms thats a common miss conception.. they get a lobby and good food and tv all sorts to keep them amused... and there int as much stricktness |
Anji Basket Case
 Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914
 | January 16th, 2007 at 11:17am tyco:very few patients get the padded rooms thats a common miss conception.. they get a lobby and good food and tv all sorts to keep them amused... and there int as much stricktness Are you sure you aren't confusing a mental institution with an elderly care home? |
tyco Jackass
 Age: 37 Gender: Male Posts: 1117 | January 16th, 2007 at 11:19am Anji:tyco:no.. thats compleatly different. How?
because somone with aids isnt harming anyone else unless they go out having sex or purpously giving aids to others then i agree they shoud also be locked up.
to be honest i dont see how you can link that as the same thing.. its COMPLEATLY different. lol |
tyco Jackass
 Age: 37 Gender: Male Posts: 1117 | January 16th, 2007 at 11:19am Anji:tyco:very few patients get the padded rooms thats a common miss conception.. they get a lobby and good food and tv all sorts to keep them amused... and there int as much stricktness Are you sure you aren't confusing a mental institution with an elderly care home?
no.. my aunt used to work in one catering for them i know the difference belive me. |
Anji Basket Case
 Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914
 | January 16th, 2007 at 11:22am tyco:Anji:tyco:no.. thats compleatly different. How?
because somone with aids isnt harming anyone else unless they go out having sex or purpously giving aids to others then i agree they shoud also be locked up.
to be honest i dont see how you can link that as the same thing.. its COMPLEATLY different. lol I know it's different, but I wanted to know if you see the terms of difference, well, differently. Which you do...
AIDS of course isn't mental, but it can never be properly cured like a mental disease. So if a mentally disturbed patient should be locked away instead of treated, then someone with AIDS should be as well? |
Anji Basket Case
 Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914
 | January 16th, 2007 at 11:25am tyco:Anji:tyco:very few patients get the padded rooms thats a common miss conception.. they get a lobby and good food and tv all sorts to keep them amused... and there int as much stricktness Are you sure you aren't confusing a mental institution with an elderly care home?
no.. my aunt used to work in one catering for them i know the difference belive me. Yeah, sarcasm...hahaha, you know.
Whatever.
It's against all the regulations for these places which are designed specifically for those who need them, like the mentally ill. If they had no padded rooms or quarentine rooms or whatever, they'd be closed down. If they didn't have these facilities and continued to run, they'd be breaking laws against safety regulations for these places. |