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August 24th, 2006 at 12:32am
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Girls should be happy with their bodies the way they are but they are NOT and that's a fact. It IS bad but they cannot help it. Recovering from an eating disorder is more complicated than making someone eat! Just because someone eats it does not mean they don't have an ED. Just remember, cuz I'm rambling, that it's the media and photoshop that are creating eating disorders NOT peergroups.
"I'm a little bigger than most girls and I used to get picked on for it, which is why I've now got an eating disorder. "

You're not one to talk about curing eating disorders, honey.


What? I think she is just right for it, actually. I mean, who else knows best? A person who has never had an eating disorder? A person who has no idea the trauma and confusion, and hatred and frustration that you go through?

Apart from that, she never actually said how to cure it. She said something that is actually quite true, something that she would know about, and that was "Girls should be happy with their bodies the way they are but they are NOT and that's a fact. It IS bad but they cannot help it. Recovering from an eating disorder is more complicated than making someone eat! Just because someone eats it does not mean they don't have an ED."

And that is very true. So it was not very fair of you to ignore her post and tell her that she was not one to talk about curing them, because she wasn't saying "this is how we cure them" she was saying "Its actually harder than making someone eat, and even if you do make them eat, that doesn't mean they are cured, because you haven't changed their way of thinking".


PeerGroups, media AND home life can cause eating disorders, also we have to remember that Anorexia IS NOT the only eating disorder out there.


You're right. But most EDs centre ana. Bulimics don't eat like normal human beings, they starve themselves as well, no matter what any one says. Compulsive eaters sometimes end up anorexic, and the other way around. A/N: I meant that peer groups never affected me. Yes, home life and media did, but maybe I'm different ...

Thanks for sticking up for me, Lucifer's Angel. I wasn't here to do so LOL

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October 1st, 2006 at 10:36pm
I used to be like fat but i started eating healthyer and i lost some whight Smile
i used to eat junk food all day but then i got sick of it and now i like alot of healthy food
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October 2nd, 2006 at 03:42am
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78% of deaths due to anorexia are accounted for by the elderly.


Oh my God. I had no idea... that's really, really sad. I'm normal weight - exactly the right weight for my height - yet boys who are brought up to appreciate skinny models and celebrities say I'm "fat". I hate it because I know it's not true, but I don't really know any good comebacks against it. Models aren't morons. That's just stupid.
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October 2nd, 2006 at 07:31am
You are born as you are, why you would want to change it, is beyond me, because it's not who you were created to be.

Be yourself.
Isn't that the motto?
That's not being yourself. Hypocrites.

People with eating disorders, really, really baffle me.
I mean, it's a state of mind, and a mental disorder, obviously.
An obsession with wanting to be a ridiculous weight, and thinking you're ugly until you acheive it.
But no matter how unhappy I am with the way I look, do you really think I'd change it? Hell no.

Some people just fall into that state of mind, and can't help it, or rather, don't want to.
I have a sister, who was bulimic.
It took so long before I got it through her head that 90 lbs was unhealthy, it'd look horrible, and the damage she was doing to her esophagus.

What you look like, shouldn't matter, and all anything is anymore these days, is a beauty contest. It's quite sad really, the things people do.
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October 2nd, 2006 at 08:16am
thats why i make it my mission to make people reaslise you can't judge me just because of what i look like
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October 3rd, 2006 at 05:20pm
i think its one of the saddest things when a girl cant see herself as "worth it" or "good enough" because of her weight.but seriously,i dont think they'd feel that way if it werent for the media and other people telling them thats how they should feel.i mean almost everyone has seen those joke things"worlds fattest man" "too fat for a motorcycle" the fat car" its degrading.just as bad as rasism or sexism.

but i apreciate models,my mom was one.its not them photoshoppping themselves.it must really hurt to see a photoshopped pic of yourself because you still werent thin enough...
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October 4th, 2006 at 04:56am
Hilda the Hag:
i think its one of the saddest things when a girl cant see herself as "worth it" or "good enough" because of her weight.but seriously,i dont think they'd feel that way if it werent for the media and other people telling them thats how they should feel.i mean almost everyone has seen those joke things"worlds fattest man" "too fat for a motorcycle" the fat car" its degrading.just as bad as rasism or sexism.

but i apreciate models,my mom was one.its not them photoshoppping themselves.it must really hurt to see a photoshopped pic of yourself because you still werent thin enough...

You want to know? Then ask me for Christ sake. I am - in one word- fat. I realise that I am at risk from diabetes, heart problems et al. I don't think I am worth anything. But I am not going to go out my way to lose weight fast, I don't see the point. I do have problems with my stomach and I toss my cookies a lot, which ain't good and I don't eat much...but it's not voluntry. I just don't feel hungry. So, yeah.
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October 4th, 2006 at 12:47pm
There is no such thing as an average body weight, or bust size, or waist size, so quit try to be average. No body in the world is average. No body is normal. Both in a mathematical sense and a literal sense. So why are people trying even harder to achieve a more abnormal body? Pretty pointless.
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October 4th, 2006 at 01:23pm
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There is no such thing as an average body weight, or bust size, or waist size, so quit try to be average. No body in the world is average. No body is normal. Both in a mathematical sense and a literal sense. So why are people trying even harder to achieve a more abnormal body? Pretty pointless.
Some people don't.
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October 4th, 2006 at 01:45pm
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Anji:
There is no such thing as an average body weight, or bust size, or waist size, so quit try to be average. No body in the world is average. No body is normal. Both in a mathematical sense and a literal sense. So why are people trying even harder to achieve a more abnormal body? Pretty pointless.
Some people don't.
I know. But about 70% the developed world does.
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October 5th, 2006 at 10:55am
Anji:
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Anji:
There is no such thing as an average body weight, or bust size, or waist size, so quit try to be average. No body in the world is average. No body is normal. Both in a mathematical sense and a literal sense. So why are people trying even harder to achieve a more abnormal body? Pretty pointless.
Some people don't.
I know. But about 70% the developed world does.
Try to be thinner you mean? Sorry if I'm coming off intellectually challenged.
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October 5th, 2006 at 11:02am
i heard this the other day, that if you stand up and hold you arms out the distance between the two fore fingers that is how tall you are, i dont know the truth in it.
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October 5th, 2006 at 11:10am
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Anji:
Happy Bunny!:
Anji:
There is no such thing as an average body weight, or bust size, or waist size, so quit try to be average. No body in the world is average. No body is normal. Both in a mathematical sense and a literal sense. So why are people trying even harder to achieve a more abnormal body? Pretty pointless.
Some people don't.
I know. But about 70% the developed world does.
Try to be thinner you mean? Sorry if I'm coming off intellectually challenged.
No, not just thinner, bigger chested, wider hips, nicer thighs, stronger stomach, bigger arms, more muscles, prettier face, nicer brows, darker eyes, clearer pores, redder lips, neater hair, less body hair. Every single act of grooming that we commit ourselves to is an act of becoming more and more abnormal, in a mathematical sense, especially. There is no average, there is no mean.
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October 5th, 2006 at 11:14am
Anji:
No, not just thinner, bigger chested, wider hips, nicer thighs, stronger stomach, bigger arms, more muscles, prettier face, nicer brows, darker eyes, clearer pores, redder lips, neater hair, less body hair. Every single act of grooming that we commit ourselves to is an act of becoming more and more abnormal, in a mathematical sense, especially. There is no average, there is no mean.


Ahh, I see.
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October 28th, 2006 at 11:56am
I don't know where to start. This is such a big subject for me.

Okay. Well my mum is overweight. Obviously she wasn't always but I can't remember her ever being a normal weight. That's just my memory, though.
It's kind of made me very aware of being overweight, actually. I never used to have a problem with it; I used to eat whatever I wanted and only ever do as much exercise as I wanted to, which to be honest probably wasn't much. I was never overweight but I've never been skinny.
As I said, that never used to bother me until I got to year 7. I think it's then that I became aware of the whole body image thing. I'm not that sure. To be honest it didn't bother me that much then, either. But I do remember thinking I was fat and being uncomfortable with it.
All of my friends have always been skinny, too, which highlighted the fact that I had a chubby belly and curves. I developed much quicker than my friends and all of my close friends were, to be honest, tiny. And that made me feel bigger than I was.
Okay...so I need to make a point now. Right so...yeah. My mum being overweight has made me very aware of the issue. She has things like diabetes [sp?] and arthritus. I don't know if they're both due to her being overweight but I know that her size doesn't help. She's been eating healthier since having recognised these problems. She's still overweight though and having witnessed how hard it gets for her has almost made me scared of becoming overweight.
I used to eat what I liked and was only slightly chubby. As I said, I developed at a young age so I felt bigger than I was. It never bothered me that much though and even when it did bring me down I never tried to diet or anything like that.
During my GCSE's, however, I started to become even more aware of my weight and what I was eating. I started to become slightly obsessed with it and I still am if I tell the truth. I keep a diary of what I eat each day to keep track of my diet. I've been eating a lot healthier and people have said that I've lost weight, if only a bit.
I think my point here is that I personally am not badly effected by the media. Okay I say that...but that doesn't make sense. Of course the media has some effect, but it's much more the awareness that my mum's weight has brought me, I think. I'm finding this really hard to explain and I'm not sure this is going anywhere.

I think I should think before I type anymore. Think
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October 28th, 2006 at 12:15pm
Okay I thought about. Kind of. Basically...here are my views on;

Obesity: It scares me and I am determined not to follow in the footsteps of my parents.

Anorexia: Argh. Big subject again. Okay so I think that you should do whatever it takes to make you feel good. If that means starving yourself, then good luck with that. I know people will have a hard time accepting this view but this is just the way I think.
I know that anorexia is extreme, it really is. And I think that it should be avoided. I know that it's an illness etc etc...but I think that a lot of people assume that people just starve themselves to look 'pretty' so that they can find a partner and I think that it is unfair to assume that. Some people may resort to this extreme for other reasons.
I don't know if I'm explainging this properly. Am I making any sense at all? Sorry if not. I'll just carry on anyway.
Yeah...so anorexia is extreme, but I can see why someone might resort to it. They may not neccisarily be trying to fit in or conform to the images that the media presents and I think that's what most people blame it on.
I'm going to end my view on this subject now because I'm going in circles and I don't know what else to say.

General self image: I think that people should do whatever it takes to make themselves feel good. If that means eating lots and never exercising, then fine. If that means having plastic surgery or a sex change, then that's fine too. It's all fine. Extremes should be avoided simply because they can put your life in danger, but if resorting to an extreme makes you feel good and you die happy then I think that that is better than living with self-hatred and dying an unhappy death.

That's just what I think. End of. Probably.
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October 28th, 2006 at 12:35pm
I'm lucky...
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October 28th, 2006 at 12:47pm
idk.. .i think those ppl have low very low selfsteem problems and that if they have bulimia or something is because they want to, they do not accept themselves, and the media isn't exactly a roll model...
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